[MD] First Division 2.0

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David,
If indeed emotions are a response to quality as you quote as an
important statement, then you are creating two categories, one which
is quality and one which is not (unless you are using this quote
within a different context).  Where do you see the separating line for
these two categories?  Both DQ and sq contain the word quality.  What
lies outside of that?

Joe, is using the undefinability of emotions, not their static
representations with words or concepts.  That would be just plain
silly, for an emotion is not a word or a concept, it comes way before
that.  Words are only used to "explain" an emotion, they are NOT THE
emotion.  There is nothing static about the emotion itself, it comes
before the static.  We cannot understand such a thing since it is not
definable.

One should read what Joe is saying, not what one is interpreting.
Your question comes from a projection of your making.  This is, of
course, the problem with words.  They are always incomplete, and can
be misleading, such as the way you interpret Pirsig's quote.

Mark


On 3/2/12, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>> DQ is a metaphysical term, indefinable in levels in existence, evolution.
>> DQ is not non-existent. Behavior follows existence DQ/SQ. Emotions are DQ.
>>
>>
>
> This is contrary to what Pirsig has claimed:
>
> "As I understand it the term “emotivism” is a way of reducing all value to
> biology, thus making it a part of the SOM universe. The MOQ sees emotions as
> a biological response to quality and not the same thing as quality. There
> are many cases, particularly in economic activity where values occur without
> any emotion." - LC
>
> Why do you see value in reducing the MOQ to an emotional response?
>
> Furthermore, why do you see value in defining the undefinable DQ as
> 'emotions'?
>
> -David.
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