[MD] Tweaking the emergence

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Marsha,
Thank you for your permission.  Do I also need your permission for my conclusions of your acceptance of what I present if you do not contest what I write?  If I do, then I most humbly request you permission dear leader.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 4, 2012, at 1:23 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> Mark,
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> It's YOUR rhetoric, run wherever you like with it.  Just please don' take my lack of response for agreement.
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> Marsha
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> On Mar 3, 2012, at 3:13 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Marsha,
>> Yes, exactly.  Let us not confuse free will for its designation.
>> Marsha is just a name, it is not you.
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:12 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Mark,
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>>> Words designate.  'Mark' is a designation.
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>>> Marsha, a designation.
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>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:52 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> It becomes an abstraction if one replaces the dynamic with the static.  The static is no more than a label, and we do not live in a world of labels, unless we find solace in such existence.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:05 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> Mark,
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>>>>> 'Free will' is just a designation, an abstraction, without any corresponding reality, an intellectual static pattern of value.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2012, at 2:51 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Even 'free will' is an intellectual static pattern of value.  If you like the pattern, than you do.  I do not like its association with the word 'will' which seems to suggest an entity acting from its own independent impetus, which I totally reject.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Concerning DQ, I cannot understand what you would expect me to say about that which is unknowable, undefinable and undividable?   'Not this, not that' seems most appropriate, and of course that would include not 'free will'.  But such a dynamic experience does establish a new appreciation for all static patterns, even 'free will'.
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
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