[MD] Why are things called patterns?

[118]

Hi Joe,

In its common usage, "evolution" pertains to a process of development.
 In biology, this development is to adapt to the ever-changing
environment.  Those would be two paradigms.  In MoQ, evolution is
simply a process of development.  Quality does not develop as a
response to something as in the biological paradigm.  Quality is an
expression of a tendency towards "betterness".  Math undergoes
evolution in response to our desire to formulate equations for "what
is".  MoQ also formulates equations for "what is".  Pirsig uses the
term "evolution" while he could also have used the term "tendency".
He is using terminology accessible to all to express his vision.
Evolution is the fad of today.

Quality has a tendency to present itself to us humans as levels.
These levels are demarcated so as to make the most sense to us.
Pirsig uses a systems approach to provide each level with a purpose.
In order to progress to the next level, a new purpose becomes
necessary.  These purposes are ranked in a format so that the
hierarchy is a reflection of man's place in the universe.  In this
format, the "intellectual level" (as defined by man) is ranked at the
top.

Quality can also be said to exist in levels which are analogized by
the musical scale.  The tendency towards betterness is a little more
complex in this case since notes are differentiated to make a song.
However, it can be said that the arrangement of notes results in
better or worse songs.  The levels as presented by Pirsig can also be
arranged so as to form a song.  This would be a song of metaphysics or
MoQ, and betterness would depend on the arrangement.  In any
metaphysics, "betterness" could be said to be synonymous with
"usefulness".  A metaphysics could be very logical, but if it is not
useful nobody will care.

When you speak of a non-intellectual metaphysics, you are speaking of
a spiritual metaphysics.  For many, a Christian faith in God does not
have to be intellectual since they can "feel" it.  If it is present,
why try to intellectualize it, for all one does is form the static out
of the dynamic?    However such Christians are taken to task because
they do not have a good "logical reason" to feel God.  In MoQ we could
be accused of the same thing since we state that DQ cannot be defined.
 In MoQ we have a logical reason not to define DQ, which is exactly
the same reason why God should not be defined.  In fact, God cannot be
defined just like DQ.  In many religions it is seen as useless to try
to create a metaphysics as we do in MoQ.  In these cultures, DQ truly
does remain undefined, but is found through meditation, Yoga, or
psychedelics.   It would appear that the meaning you take from MoQ
would be more along the lines of what feels right.  Others choose to
find meaning in what feels right logically.  There really is no
difference there.  I am sure that great meaning in one's existence can
be discovered through the arrangement of whole notes, whatever the
pitch class may be.

Music can also be presented through math.  Since notes represent a
harmonic motion of a string (for example), it is not hard to use wave
functions to describe music.  In many ways, quantum mechanics is
composing music with its equations since they consist of wave
functions.  In string theory, harmony and symmetry of the functions is
important because they "sound good".  Again this is no different from
appreciating a good song.  Certain notes go well together because the
cycles per second follow certain mathematical ratios.  This makes
sense because our ears are machines that have a finite capacity for
harmony recognition.  One could also say that there is "music" in
white noise, or in the precession of the equinoxes.

I too find music to be a remarkable method for understanding MoQ.  I
got much of my musical metaphysics education from reading the writings
of Gurjieff especially as told by Ouspensky in "In Search of the
Miraculous" (a miraculous book).  In that he speaks of the "Law of
Seven".  Gurjieff was also an interesting composer, and I listen to
his music at times.  I just Googled the internet, and I can provide
you with the following link if you are interested:

http://mozart2051.tripod.com/law_of_seven.htm

It is said in that link that the teachings of Gurjieff in this sense
are similar to those of Pythagorus.  I am not enough of an expert to
know.  I have also read that Pythagorus was a descendant of Hermes.
This makes perfect sense to me since Hermes is an incarnation of
Thoth.  The Hermetic tradition is at the foundation of all great
religions (yes even Buddhism), and therefore has strong ties with MoQ.

Lots of MoQ topics here if anybody is interested in discussing.
Please come prepared.

Cheers,
Mark

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> I do not know your paradigm for evolution?  For myself I am satisfied using
> the musical octave as a template for levels in existence.  It is difficult
> for me to envision a non-intellectual metaphysics since the math of physics
> is described intellectually and a description of further evolution would
> follow, existence, for the higher intellectual template beyond math for
> metaphysics.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 3/17/12 11:32 AM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe.
>>
>> Metaphysics points to the non-intellectual.  Water boys keep the team
>> going, but do not score the touchdowns.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Ron,
>>>
>>> Metaphysics are intellectual! It's a touchdown!  Water boys don't play!
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/12 6:20 AM, "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What can be said is that a MoQ is an intellectual idea about making good
>>>> value
>>>> distinctions.
>>>
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