[MD] The value of static patterns.

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 10:33:22 PDT 2012


Hi Marsha,

What Pisig's is suggesting, IMO, is the presence of free will, which I equate with DQ.  He also throws in a bit of Zen.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:44 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Again hello David & Mark,
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:46 PM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> David:
>>>> So we just need to have a goal of DQ and not sq? So if I just have a goal of
>>>> DQ, then I need not worry about the patterns I am creating?
>>> 
>>> Mark:
>>> Not a goal of DQ, a goal of understanding.  Why do you wish to learn
>>> more about MoQ by participating in this forum?  This is a serious
>>> question, I just want to understand.
>> 
>> David:
>> Yes, to understand and in the process make myself a better person.
> 
> Here's something I like to consider:
> 
> "Causes and results are infinite in number and variety.  Everything affects everything.  In this universe, when one thing changes, everything changes.  Hence the great power of man in changing the world by changing himself."
>   (Nisargadatta Maharaj)
> 
> This is really no different than what Mr. Pirsig advises in ZAMM:
> 
> "The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands, and then work outward from there. Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value."
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
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