[MD] Contradiction and incoherence.

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Fri Mar 23 12:17:17 PDT 2012


Hi John, 


Good to see you posting again.  To be fair to the MoQ Textbook, I think the whole quote should be properly reposted.   And maybe I could have been a bit more careful with the way that I presented the quote:


"This is supported by Herbert Guenther 204 (1957, p.144) who adds: 

      Experience is the central theme of Buddhism, not theoretical postulation and 
      deductive verification. Since no experience occurs more than once and all 
      repeated experiences actually are only analogous occurrences, it follows that 
      a thing or material substance can only be said to be a series of events interpreted 
      as a thing, having no more substantiality than any other series of events we may 
      arbitrarily single out. 

"After some thought, I think Guenther’s comment is valid as I can’t think of any events that are repeated exactly. Moreover, like the concept of ‘self’, there’s no absolute objective rule to judge when one event starts and another stops. This means that any concept or term is fundamentally indeterminate, imprecise and, as time passes, increasingly less useful."
      
        (MoQ Textbook)  


Marsha 
 
 
 





On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:54 PM, ridgecoyote at gmail.com wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> 
>>>> 
>>>> After some thought, I think Guenther's comment is valid as I can't think
>>> of any events that are repeated exactly. Moreover, like the concept of
>>> "self" there's no absolute objective rule to judge when one event starts
>>> and another stops. This means that any concept or term is fundamentally
>>> indeterminate, imprecise and, as time passes, increasingly less useful.
> 
> 
> Less useful for what?  I guess if you are some logical purist that needs everything to fit neatly into strict categories, then you might find language less and less useful over time, as it expands and connects with everything else. 
> 
> But if one is trying to connect with everything else, the richness of language s it's he's feature.  Ambiguity leads to poetic resonances that make life more meaningful, not less.  I'd say that sounds pretty darn useful to me!
> 
> John
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