[MD] Why are things called patterns?

[MarshaV]

On Mar 23, 2012, at 7:05 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Marsha,
> I believe that much can be apprehended outside of the cognitive process.  I would hazard to say that 99% of our apprehension is outside of such cognition.  How much does your body go through In an hour?  How much of that reaches the cognitive process.

To think so requires the cognitive process.  


> We cannot strictly separate ourselves from the environment, but when we do, that is the cognitive process.  When is each molecule part of ourselves or part of the environment (for example)?

To think this requires the cognitive process.  


> To claim that all must first pass through the cognitive process before it. Is ours, is to deny the dynamic as part of our experience, in my opinion.  But, I may be wrong (again).

To think this requires the cognitive process.  None of your opinion can be apprehended apart from your cognitive process.


> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
> Mark


Marsha 



> On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:49 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Craig,
>> 
>> I am not saying patterns are mere ideas, but can anything at all be apprehended apart from one's complex of cognitive processes?  Not a universe, not billions-of-years, not humans, and not advanced civilizations.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:26 AM, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>>> In regard to "ideas, which produce what we know as matter":
>>> it should be remembered how insignificant humans might be.
>>> Firstly, the universe existed billions of years before humans & if humans demise, might exist billions of years after.
>>> Secondly, there might be civilizations way more advanced than us, that make us look primitive. 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
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