[MD] Why are things called patterns?

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Marsha, 
As you yourself say, there is nothing to do the clinging.  You are conditionally here, and every minute comes and goes for you.  Therefore your inability to cling to any opinion is moot.  You have no self, remember.  At least this is what you state.  Perhaps there is a glimmer of change there...

As a conditional input, my opinion affects your continual changing since there is nothing there to stop it, right?  By not clinging you are like the wind, so drop the presence that you have any control; you are contradicting your very premise.  This should not matter to you, and your stance only presents confusion.  Lighten the load and live free.  Practice what you preach and you will get someplace.

Stay strong!

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> 
> Mark,
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> There's no reason to cling or attach to your opinion.  Here it comes; there it goes...  
> 
> 
> Marsha 
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> 
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> On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:28 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> Yes, some agreement comes through contemplation.  It certainly doesn't always come through the static filters of "cognition".  I fully understand why you not agree with much that I say.  I have noticed that over time you do tend to agree.  What can one expect if one is simply the product of "conditions", and my posts are one of those conditions.  You have no choice but to incorporate them.  But I understand your desire to appear independent as if the "self" really does exist.
>> 
>> So, carry on and claim that "you disagree", I understand.  You are conditionally changing, so I continue to "speak" to you.
>> 
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
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>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Mark,
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>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:19 AM, 118 wrote:
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>>>> Marsha,
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:30 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:06 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> This is of course just my opinion and you do not have to agree with it, as I do not of yours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>> We agree here...
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, my posts are meant for those who wish for a way out of the static
>>>> world of thought. The idea is to free oneself from words.
>>> 
>>> Marsha:
>>> This too is your opinion, which doesn't necessitate agreement as you have already stated.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> "As a flame blown out by the wind goes to rest and cannot be defined
>>>> so the wise man freed from individuality goes to rest and cannot be defined.
>>>> Gone beyond all images gone beyond the power of words"
>>>> Sutta Nipata
>>>> -Buddha on his death bed.
>>>> 
>>>> "You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"
>>> 
>>> Marsha:
>>> To repeat what I posted to dmb:  A vegetable garden will be seen in a radically different way by a farmer than it is by a city-dwelling office worker.  
>>>> 
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