Hi MarshaV and All' True and False have existential connotations. I love it that Pirsig valued indefinable DQ and definable SQ in existence. Joe On 3/29/12 9:37 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote: > Protagoras: ³Man is the measure of all things.², or as poor maligned Lila > might have interpreted it ŒAll beliefs are true if you believe them.¹