[MD] Moving On
Ian
ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Sun May 6 14:29:30 PDT 2012
Hi Dan, you're right of course,
But clearly I meant knowing - in a sense we cannot necessarily rationalize - so we could be wrong , but it shouldn't stop us trying. And yes, I agreed with Marsha's "do" - but I guess "try to do" is probably what I/we meant. Do try. (I is we, anyway) see Jonathan Haidt.
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On 6 May 2012, at 21:36, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Ian Glendinning stated May 6th:
>>
>> Trying to do something better - knowing what's better - which is I
>> believe what Ant just said (and Marsha too - "do").
>> There is nothing else.
>
> Dan:
> "Do or do not. There is no try." [Yoda]
>
> "The story was of a struggle between good and evil, but the koan it
> raised was, "Which was which?" Was this person really good or was he
> perhaps also evil?" [Lila]
>
> I have a couple problems with what Ian has written here. When he
> writes "knowing what's better" he assumes we really can know what's
> better beforehand. But it raises the question: which is which? Is what
> we do better? Or is it worse? There's no telling until after the fact.
>
> And reading Marsha's post, she seemed pretty adamant about doing, not
> trying to do. I mean, if you missed that, then there's little more I
> can say.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ant McWatt comments:
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> While I agree with your sentiment here, I guess what I was essentially trying to convey in my last (rather bad tempered) post to Mark is William James' concern about being as clear as possible with one's rhetoric. I'm sure Mark has a genuine interest in the MOQ but his "Moving On" post was just too verbose and loose for my liking.
>
> Dan:
> As you see, I don't exactly agree with Ian... but be that as it may, I
> do essentially agree with your (rather bad tempered) post to Mark.
> I've come to see exercises such as addressing posts to certain
> individuals who shall remain nameless as rather a waste of time. And
> God knows we all have precious little time to waste on nonsense.
>
> Too, we do not need someone to tell us that they're educated... show
> us. All writers learn that right off... don't they?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dan
>
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