[MD] Moving On

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ian <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan, you're right of course,

Hi Ian

Thank you for your reply.

>Ian:
> But clearly I meant knowing - in a sense we cannot necessarily rationalize - so we could be wrong , but it shouldn't stop us trying. And yes, I agreed with Marsha's "do" - but I guess "try to do" is probably what I/we meant. Do try. (I is we, anyway)

Dan:
Well, I did not understand Marsha saying try to do... as I stated, she
seemed adamant about doing. But perhaps she's better qualified to
answer this than am I. Myself, I do not try to write... I write. Or I
don't. Writing is better.

My point (and Yoda's) is there is no such thing as try to do. A person
either does or doesn't. So when you say we should try to do better, I
see you espousing nonsense. We either do better or we don't... there
is no try.

I rather hoped you might seek to enlighten me how just how a person
goes about trying to do better when the outcome of our doing is
unknown. Experience Dynamically unfolds in ways unforeseen and
un-looked for. Are you talking about probabilities? And if so, on what
do you judge the likelihood of this happening instead of that?

Ian:
see Jonathan Haidt.

Dan:

"Haidt has been criticized at times for being both simplistic and too
lenient toward moral beliefs that have historically led to grave
injustices. In a response to Haidt's suggestion that atheists "pollute
the scientific study of religion," author Sam Harris writes, "Even if
Haidt's reading of the literature on morality were correct, and all
this manufactured bewilderment proves to be useful in getting certain
people to donate time, money, and blood to their neighbors—so what? Is
science now in the business of nurturing useful delusions? Surely we
can grow in altruism, and refine our ethical intuitions, and even
explore the furthest reaches of human happiness, without lying to
ourselves about the nature of the universe"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt]

Not sure what there is to see?

Thank you,

Dan

http://www.danglover.com