[MD] reifying carrots
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Wed May 9 02:05:04 PDT 2012
On May 9, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Marsha to Andre:
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> "Please note, Andre, that your previous post (below) presented nonsense (your misrepresentation) and then dmb's (further misrepresented) reply:..."
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> As if I stated something was "certain", which I never did. You cannot find a quote where I stated anything is "certain". - You are like one of those little guys, who need to pump themselves up at other's expense.
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> Andre:
> Let's go back a bit. To the start of this thread (2-05-20120) where Marsha stated:
> "I am more and more convinced that conceptualization is the twin reification of self (subject) and other (object). As such it would say something significant about ALL static patterns from the inorganic level to the intellectual level: All patterns, all levels - inorganic, biological, social& intellectual - are conventionally, indeed, statically, subject-object oriented."
Marsha:
I am inquiring, investigating possibilities. Being "more and more convinced" does not equate to certainty. I have no knowledge of Absolutes. In fact, I know nothing, nothing at all; that's why I am inquiring. Remember I am acutely aware that discussion is analogy upon analogy.
If you want to discuss things that are certain, don't read my posts.
Marsha
> She quoted William Caldron in support of her argument who ended up saying:
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> "That is to say, consistent with our main thesis, that we know the world by means of our evolved capacities to reify experience into the categories of language and social and cultural life. These are both fundamental and fundamentally obscuring."
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> And now Marsha, performing her Lucy act once again claims that nothing is 'certain'! Hereby invalidating, nullifying her post in the first place, despite being "more and more convinced...".
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> I mean, what's the use of posting something then Marsha? Why quote someone and then saying (about the point your are making) that it is 'fundamental and fundamentally'... "uncertain"?(contrary to what the author seems to claim!!!) Don't you see how utterly nihilistic this is?
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> You are wriggling and wriggling. Why post in the first place Marsha. Why are you here?
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> And you are put off by my 'bucket' analogy? Well, that's how I came to refer to your behavior in the first place. And you continue doing it.
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> Marsha:
> Thanks, but no thanks. Like I said, your style is more conducive to dmb's project. You and he make a team and play a game I am not interested in playing.
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> Andre:
> I am convinced that 'playing' is all you do Marsha. You really do not give a hoot about anything, least of all intellectual integrity or honest consistency.
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