[MD] Plato's Good

[david buchanan]

Ridgecoyote said to Tuukka:
 Plato sounds like a lot of folks around here, doncha think?

Pirsig wrote: "Plato hadn't tried to destroy areté. He had encapsulated it; made a permanent, fixed Idea out of it; had converted it to a rigid, immobile Immortal Truth. He made areté the Good, the highest form, the highest Idea of all. It was subordinate only to Truth itself, in a synthesis of all that had gone before."


dmb says:
Who "around here" has ever tried to make a fixed idea out of Pirsig's undefined Quality? Definitions are static and intellectual. The MOQ is static and intellectual. Concepts are static and intellectual. If I can speak for "folks around here", what we want is the proper use of terms and intelligible expressions of ideas. Nobody is asking for a definition of DQ and nobody is saying that pre-intellectual experience (DQ) can be pinned down by words or ideas. 
Can you show me a single counter-example wherein somebody is trying to turn Quality into a fixed and permanent Idea, or even an idea of any kind? I think your charge is totally baseless and wholly without merit.