[MD] Moving on

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Hi Andre,
All these carefully crafted philosophical arguments and proofs that
you present with your post.  I don't know if I can rise to the level
of your intellectual discussion...NOT!

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Andre Broersen
<andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark to Andre:
>
> Kwaliteit kan niet jou hebben. Niets can Kwaliteit hebben.  Kwaliteit gaat
> boven alles. Begrijp je dat?
>
> Andre:
> For those of you who are eagerly awaiting any post Mark sends next I'll
> translate what he wrote. "Quality can't have you. Nothing can have Quality.
> Quality rises above everything. Do you understand that?"
>
> It seems to me that Mark does not understand, nay, completely misses
> Phaedrus' koan "Does Lila have quality". He therefore completely misreads
> LILA.

Well, Andre, I can see your argument very clearly from that statement.
 All these points and counterpoints and rationally crafted rhetoric.
You make such a strong argument there.  You wouldn't know a koan if it
grabbed your groin.  So far as I can tell, you have not grasped Lila.
At least I do not see any evidence of it here in this post of yours.
Perhaps I am wrong and there is some hidden meaning in what you say
above.  Oh, I forgot, since you say it, it must be of high quality.
No explanation necessary then.
>
> In fact, Mark has exalted Quality to a theistic entity/concept...the
> wonderful christian variation of always sought but never to be attained...as
> there was only one able to.

So far as I can tell, Andre, you are the dogmatic bully of a
Christian.  Perhaps it is that severe Calvinist upbringing of yours.
You are the one making a religion out of this with your strong arm
tactics.   Your worshiping at the alter of some idol with all your
rituals and sacrifices.  "Throw them all in to the pit" you say.
Andre, the mob ruler, the fanatic character assassinator, who yells
from the walls with a torch in hand.  Yell away my friend.

So, you think that Quality is something you can have like a pot of
gold?  Something you can offer like two black hens with a bloody
knife.  I am sorry, my friend, but you are so stuck in the world of
Quality as an object that you feel like you can use it like Brimstone.
>
> Oh dear. I am flabbergasted...stunned...but not really.

Well, you sound flabbergasted, or is it insane?
>
> And, by the way, I can now see the incredible brilliance displayed by
> pulling this language thingy. But I really did not expect anything less from
> someone who, as a four-year-old contemplated the infinity of the universe
> (as you related to us many , many posts ago) whilst I was still sucking my
> thumb.

Hmmm... "that language thingy".  I hadn't thought of such an eloquent
manner of putting it.  Good use of words there buddy.

Andre, it was you who claimed you contemplated infinity as a four-year
old, so stop projecting.  Please, your anger towards yourself is
misplaced and you are taking it out on the playground.  It was also
you who claimed that DQ was a coin of some sort.  I still have no idea
what you were talking about, probably never will.  That's not your
thumb you are sucking, that's your little Quality lolly that you HAVE
in your fist.
>
> Halleluya Mark. Time to move your faith along...ahem...on...somewhere.

My faith?  You shout from a pedestal like some kind of ravenous
preacher.  "Atone for your sins!" you say.

Like I said, this bully tactic of yours will never work.  Seen it too
many times from people who are floundering and thrashing about.  But,
if it makes you feel better, by all means stand there on your soap box
and yell out your tirades.  Pull out your wallet full of Quality that
you have stashed in your back pocket, and tell Pirsig how it really
is.  Maybe then you will calm down a bit.  I am perfectly willing to
take abuse if it is for your own betterment.  Shake your fists, flay
your ams, get it all out.


Maybe next time you can post something of substance.  Haven't seen
that from you for quite a while.  Or, you can just keep yelling at
your demons.

Regards,
Mark
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