[MD] Moving on
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ununoctiums at gmail.com
Sat May 12 09:48:00 PDT 2012
Hi Andre,
I appreciate and respect your position. I have one comment below.
Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark
On May 12, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark to Andre:
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> So, you think that Quality is something you can have like a pot of gold?
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> Andre:
> I never said this. I merely commented on what you said in an earlier post (in Dutch) which I'll repeat:
> "Quality can't have you. Nothing can have Quality. Quality rises above everything. Do you understand that?"
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> The koan: "Does Lila have Quality?" is resolved by stating that Quality has Lila. You seem to deny this completely. Lila is a jungle of static patterns of quality. Biologically she's fine, socially low on the scale and as an intellectual she is nowhere. We ARE those patterns Mark. Something you and Marsha find difficult to comprehend.
My comment is this:
By stating that Quality has Lila you are separating Quality from Lila. I disagree with this premise because it creates a false dichotomy. This is what I imply with my quote in my father's language.
Yes, I also say that we are those patterns and am consistent therein. Those patterns are part of Quality. We do not have Lila on one side and Quality on another, and thus Lila "having Quality". I am not sure your premise is consistent with MoQ, but I could be wrong.
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> But, I noticed something curious in your post to Anthony. There, you say: "It is impossible to
> separate ourselves from Quality...This is Zen"
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> Well, for your information, this is MoQ as well.
Yes, two approaches to the same awareness.
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> This contradicts completely with what you argued in my post. It is indeed time to move on and I wish, in your case that you move toward some sort of consistency. Unless of course your resolution is to consistently be inconsistent.
I believe I am consistent, and I am more than happy to move on. We just have different approaches.
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> I'll ignore the rest of your post.
Thanks for that, it was trite on my part.
Regards,
Mark
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