[MD] Plato's Good
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Sun May 13 14:41:38 PDT 2012
No, dmb,
by asking a question I already exposed my ignorance. While you were
able to help me, you were not man enough to do that without glee.
Tuukka
Quoting david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>:
>
>
> Tuukka said:Pirsig definitely says Plato says Good is a fixed idea.
> But is he right?
>
> dmb replied:
> Yes, according to the very first sentence of the opening paragraph
> of Stanford's article on Plato, Pirsig is right. ...If we made a
> list of debatable assertions, this one would be at the very bottom.
> Pirsig is only saying what everyone already acknowledges about
> Plato's work and anyone who doubts it can easily look it up. It's
> about as reasonable and realistic as doubting the blueness of the
> sky. It's silly.
>
>
> Tuukka said:
> I did not acknowledge this. I severely disapprove of your attitude.
>
>
>
> dmb says:
> Your question and this exchange, I think, highlights a very serious
> problem around here. To be perfectly frank about it, the problem is
> that we get a whole lot of attitude from people who imagine they are
> going to correct or improve Pirsig's philosophy but that attitude
> of superiority is completely unjustified. As in this case, we have
> people who want to cast doubt on matters that no one disputes. The
> question (is Pirsig right about Plato) can only be posed by a
> super-genius who can correct the entire history of philosophy or by
> an ignorant person who doesn't know the first thing about
> philosophy. Which is more likely?
>
> Of course you disapprove of my attitude. I'm saying that question
> can only be asked out of a profound ignorance of the basics. And
> since this question is being taken seriously by those who would be
> pretend to improve Pirsig, it's totally outrageous. It's delusional!
>
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