[MD] Is the MOQ static, or a static pattern?

[ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR]

[Tuukka]
Due to my background with mathematics, I was checking whether this recursion is something that can be formally defined. If not, fine.

[Arlo]
I have to admit I'm a little surprised you have a background with mathematics but are not familiar with recursion. Your quest for 'formal definitions', remember Goedel's caution (here paraphrased by Hofstadter in GEB) "All consistent axiomatic formulations of number theory include undecidable propositions". Indeed, it is THAT right there could easily be translated in Pirsig as "All metaphysics included undefined proposition". You're on a grand goose chase if you think you can develop a number theory that contains no undecidable propositions.

[Tuukaa]
What I like about the MOQ is that due to the emergence of the levels, any static thing can be seen to manifest itself on any pattern, but differently.

[Arlo]
Of course a [paper] map contains wood pulp, which itself is composed of cellulose, hemicellulose, xylan, arabinose, and lignin.... which in turn consists of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, etc. And in chemical production of paper, this has value, but in getting your motorcycle from Pittsburgh to Knoxville won't help you one bit. 

I have no idea what "any static thing can be seen to manifest itself on any pattern" means. How does my motorcycle manifest itself onto a potato? What would that even mean? That they are both comprised of atoms? I think you're losing sight of pragmatic value here, Tuukka, if everything is everything else, then we are hopelessly awash in a sea of indiscriminatory chaos. Sure, all static patterns are "of Quality", all static patterns could be defined by their lowest common denominators, you can define "Goedel's Incompleteness Theorum" as a collection of quarks, but I see no value in such a statement at all. 

[Tuukka]
I know this may sound silly, but instead of trying to be useful, I was trying to be right...

[Arlo]
Ah, see, like I said, your difficulty is approaching this from the SOM view, and you've clearly just demonstrated this in the above statement.

[Tuukka]
As you use LILA's MOQ with four patterns, this issue might seem irrelevant to you. But I'm using a MOQ that has 16 patterns, which emerge circularily from each other. This MOQ is my own creation..

[Arlo]
Ah, well, then we are talking about different things. Good luck with your efforts.