[MD] The hard question.

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Fri May 18 12:07:26 PDT 2012







On May 18, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Marsha
> 
> Your statement reminds me of this quote from Lila:
> 
> "Explicit definitions when given, demonstrate the nebulous character
> of 'value,' " Blake and Davis said. "Here, for example, is the
> definition of 'value-orientation' in a 437-page book on value
> orientations:
> 
> "Value orientations are complex but definitely patterned
> (rank­ordered) principles resulting from the transactional interplay
> of three analytically distinguishable elements of the evaluative
> process-the cognitive, the affective, and the directive elements-which
> give order and direction to the ever-flowing stream of human acts and
> thoughts as these relate to the solution of 'common human' problems."
> 
> "Poor Kluckhohn, Phaedrus thought. That was his definition. With that
> lead balloon for a vehicle there was no way he could succeed.
> 
> "The attack made Phaedrus want to get in there and start arguing. The
> statement that values are vague and therefore shouldn't be used for
> primary classification is not true. There's nothing vague about a
> value judgment. When a voter goes to the polling booth he's making a
> value judgment. What's so vague about that? Isn't an election a
> cultural activity? What's so vague about the New York stock exchanges?
> Aren't values what they're dealing in? How about the U.S. Treasury?
> Who in this world is more specific than the Internal Revenue Service?
> As Kluckhohn saying, values are not the least vague when you're
> dealing with them in terms of actual experience. It's only when you
> bring back statements about them and try to integrate them into the
> overall jargon of anthropology that they become vague."  [LILA]
> 
> Dan comments:
> 
> The way I see it, when I read definitions like this:
> 
>> I tend to think of 'interplay' as an ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and conceptualized processing in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
> 
> It makes me think of the 'lead balloon' quote I offered above... very
> vague and nebulous. I did not mean 'interplay' in that sense at all,
> which I am sure you know.
> 
>> How does 'interplay' work for you.
> 
> Dan:
> 
> If you've read LILA you already know the answer to this question.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dan
> 

Hi Dan,

It sounds like the discussion is closed.  


Marsha 


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