[MD] The hard question.

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Sat May 19 06:57:57 PDT 2012


Andre:
'Since the MOQ states that consciousness (i.e. intellectual patterns) is 
the collection
and manipulation of symbols, created in the brain, that stand for 
patterns of experience,...If one agrees that experience exists at the 
inorganic level,... . A question arises if the term “consciousness” is 
expanded to mean “intuition” or “mystic awareness.”' (Annotation 32, 
Lila's Child)

I would suggest that the MOQ, as a static intellectual pattern of value 
IS expanded to mean 'intuition' or 'mystic awareness'.

I find Wilber, in his Spectrum of Consciousness very useful when he 
describes 'levels' of consciousness. For example our ancestors living 
the hunting and gathering evolutionary 'phase' cannot be expected nor 
assumed to have a self same consciouness which we (or most of us) enjoy 
today. It would be like comparing the consciousness of a five-year old 
with that of a sixty-five year old. This difference would then lie in 
the manipulation of symbols that stand for patterns of experience.

I suppose the sixty-five year old could, possibly, still access the 
experiences she had as a five year old. The five year old cannot pull 
the same trick.

I cannot see any contradiction with the MOQ here but stand corrected. 
It's an interesting topic and I think, if I remember correctly, that dmb 
suggested this topic when he gave us the link to Alan Wallace and the 
Oxford Lectures on Buddhism...which I found very interesting.



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