[MD] The hard question

[MarshaV]

Hello Andre, 


On May 28, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Marsha to Andre:
> So your argument that there are no fundamental truths within the MoQ fell apart.  Unless, of course, you disagree with the statement that "a fundamental truth of the MoQ is the idea that the world is nothing but value.".
> 
> Andre:
> Au contraire Marsha. You do not understand the caveat I posted: YOUR idea of FUNDAMENTAL truth is what I was referring to. Have you forgotten Nagarjuna?
> 
> Stop slithering.


Marsha:
Yes, you did make a caveat in your first statement, but then you moved forward with a claim that the MoQ is an intellectual static pattern of value which contains no fundamental truths (sans caveat).  A fundamental truth is a fundamental truth.  Here is your exact paragraph:

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On May 26, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

Andre: 
Which is very true and a beautiful insight. But what you fail to accept or understand or both is that the MOQ does not deal in 'fundamental truths'. That is those 'fundamental truths' you are referring to. The MOQ is a static intellectual pattern of quality. That is all. There is no 'fundamental truth contained within the MOQ.
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Marsha:
So what is this trickery?  We are not dealing with the Ultimate Truth.  You wrote "The MOQ is a static intellectual pattern of quality. That is all. There is no 'fundamental truth contained within the MOQ."

The quote I offered:

"As Hagen 202 (1997, p.30) notes, one of the most fundamental truths noted by the Buddha is that all aspects of our experience are in constant flux and change. According to the Buddha, when a person ignores this truth they subject themselves to dukkha."

This quote stands as stating that static (patterned) value is in "constant flux and change".

Or as I like to explain it:

'ever-changing ... that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.'



Stop slithering.



Marsha


p.s.  Yes, I've heard of Nagarjuna.