[MD] The hard question.

[MarshaV]

Hi dmb,


On May 30, 2012, at 1:50 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Marsha said to dmb:
> I asked in yesterday's post to clarify what you mean by direct experience?  Do you mean direct experience without any patterns, or do you mean direct perceptual experience without any words or language?  I wonder how you understand this term 'direct experience'?  Do you think static patterns are merely words and language?  Because I understand static (patterned) value to be events/processes that may include names and language.
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> dmb says:
> This is just another way to conflate sq and DQ. AND it shows that you don't understand the core concepts. You ask, for example if I think of direct experience (DQ) as "without any patterns" OR "without any words or language"? But in the MOQ words are static patterns, so the question makes no sense. Static patterns including anything that can be conceptualized. Concepts ARE static patterns, even when they are concepts like "dirt" or "fish". 


Marsha:
Here's a question to try to get at you understanding of static patterns:  Are static patterns of value ONLY words and language?  
 
Thanks in advance for your clarification.


Marsha