[MD] kill all intellectual patterns

[david buchanan]

dmb said:
According to the MOQ, fame and fortune are social level values. According to the MOQ, our recent history is a clash of values, namely social level values as opposed to intellectual values.

Marsha replied:
Within the nine quoted paragraphs you presented, what RMP actually wrote was that money, or fortune, was one of the "... dynamic parameters that give society its shape and meaning." ...The remaining quotes made no reference to money or economics at all. ...

dmb says:
You don't understand that the clash between communism and fascism is chiefly about economics? Fame and fortune are the twin forces of the social level, but these traditional gods were challenged and confronted by "Communism and socialism, programs for intellectual control over society," Pirsig says. "The new culture that has emerged is the first in history to believe that patterns of society must be subordinate to patterns of intellect. The one dominating question of this century has been, “Are the social patterns of our world going to run our intellectual life, or is our intellectual life going to run the social patterns?”

When was politics ever NOT about money and economics? Why do I have to spell out the most basic inferences and supply the most basic facts before you can even see the point? I think it's fair to presume that the readers in a philosophy discussion group are not profoundly ignorant about politics or the basic facts of history and presume that they can think about what they read. That's why you don't belong here. You're just not equipped or even willing, apparently.