[MD] kill all intellectual patterns

[Andre Broersen]

Marsha to Andre:
You seem not to understand that I am not interested in your moralizing 
baloney...

"There are so many kinds of problem people like Rigel around, he 
thought, but the ones who go posing as moralists are the worst. 
Cost-free morals. Full of great ways for others to improve without any 
expense to themselves. There's an ego thing in there, too. They use the 
morals to make someone else look inferior and that way look better 
themselves. It doesn't matter what the moral code is - religious morals, 
political morals, racist morals, capitalist morals, feminist morals, 
hippie morals - they're all the same. The moral codes change but the 
meanness and the egotism stay the same." (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 7)

Andre:
This is not 'egotism' Marsha. It has to do with understanding the very 
fundamentals/basics of Pirsig's MoQ. The division DQ/sq which you do not 
accept (just mix them up they're both the same).
That the MoQ is an intellectual pattern of value, which you do not 
accept (the MoQ=Experience/Reality itself).

That you need to write an entire paragraph explaining and understanding 
the idea of a static pattern to yourself and which Pirsig simply 
summarizes as static you manage to make it (self)-contradictory 
static=ever-changing. Rigel represents the social level. I am trying to 
help you understand this at an intellectual level. However, your 
repeated and close identification (chapter 14 of LILA)with Lila, at the 
biological level explains to me the twist you are making...and you do 
the same with Pirsig's, Dewey's, James', dmbs and Anthony's statements. 
You see them all as personal, social level attacks on you because you 
are so far removed from the intellectual level you do not recognize it. 
You translate intellectual values automatically as social values. It's 
quite a feat! And this is really sad.

Same way as a few posts back you kidnapped the intellectual level by 
confusing the mystic's reality with social morality.

Anyway, you are and remain incorrigable. Go away please. This discuss is 
really too much for you to handle.