[MD] kill all intellectual patterns

[MarshaV]

Hi Michael,

In Chapter 32 in LILA, RMP wrote:

"While sustaining biological and social patterns 
Kill all intellectual patterns. 
Kill them completely 
And then follow Dynamic Quality 
And morality will be served."

Marsha:
I was trying to answer the question explaining what I understood "Kill all intellectual patterns." to mean.  I choose the quote from Steve Hagen's book because it best represents how I understand/experience the statement and the book comes so highly recommended to Anthony McWatt by RMP personally.  He wrote to Anthony:

"While I am thinking about it there is a very good book on Buddhism recently out called 'Buddhism, Plain and Simple', by Steve Hagen and published by Tuttle Publishing. I recommend you get it because it shows the similarities, between the MOQ and Zen Buddhism more clearly than any other I have seen."
      (Pirsig to McWatt, May 6th 1998)

Marsha:
Here is the quote I chose to represent my response:

“Twenty-five hundred years ago...
“When the Buddha was asked to sum up his teaching in a single word, he said, “awareness.”  ... 
“Not awareness of something in particular, but awareness itself --- being awake, alert, in touch with what is actually happening."
      (Hagen, Steve, ‘Buddhism: Plain and Simple’, p.3) 

Marsha:
Awareness.  

I like the Zen stories.  I have a deep interest and respect for all the various Buddhist traditions.  Along with reading scholarly tomes, I continue to read some of the sutras.  From the Diamond Sutra, Buddha suggests that all dharma be contemplated thus:

    "All conditioned dharmas 
    Are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, shadows, 
    Like dew drops and a lightning flash. 
    Contemplate them thus."



Marsha 





On Nov 16, 2012, at 7:19 PM, "Michael R. Brown" <mrb at fuguewriter.com> wrote:

> Zen purports to lead its adherents to insights akin to that mentioned by Śākyamuni Buddha in his Flower Sermon in which he held up a white flower and just admired it in his hand.[2] Mahākāśyapa smiled faintly, and Śākyamuni Buddha picked that disciple as one who truly understood him and who was worthy to be his successor. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%81k%C4%81%C5%9Byapa
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> This is why one of my major usernames, on AIM for instance, is Kasyapa.
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> MRB
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> On 11/16/2012 3:53 PM, MarshaV wrote:
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> [ snip ] “Twenty-five hundred years ago... “When the Buddha was asked to sum up his teaching in a single word, he said, “awareness.” ... “Not awareness of something in particular, but awareness itself --- being awake, alert, in touch with what is actually happening. (Hagen, Steve, ‘Buddhism: Plain and Simple’, p.3)
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