[MD] A Better understanding

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All, (except for a few)
Presumably, we are all here to gain a greater clarity in meaning in regard to the Philosophy
of Robert Pirsig . This aim, this place of beginning that defines the MD must be shared in
our community as a primary principle, the willingness to be reasonable is essential toward
that end.
That being said
 
dmb says:
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Also, our pragmatists are quite deliberately rejecting ancient ideas about Truth. Pragmatism is an alternative to the long standing idea that the truth is whatever corresponds with the way things really are, the way reality really is, apart from and beyond our experience. For the Platonists, the Forms were the real reality and for Modern SOMers, the real reality is objective, physical reality. Pragmatism rejects this correspondence theory of truth, rejects all fixed and eternal truths and instead insists that experience IS reality. Truths can only ever be the ideas that work successfully within experience and should never be used to make claims about any reality outside of experience. These are just metaphysical fictions, the pragmatists say, and philosophers have no business talking about them. This is radical empiricism wherein the world just is the world of pure experience itself.

  Ron:
The ancients ideas about the true as correspondence with the way things ARE included the caveat
that just what IS is in flux and unknowable, and that those ideas which were the most consistantly 
successfull were the closest we could get to any kind of knowledge of the good. Because of this
they deduced that these concepts were closely related . This was enough
for them to assert those ideas as possessing a trueness and a foothold for clarity and precision to be
predicated on. Now I am fully aware of the reactionary response to rationalists conceptions of "Truth"
and thats not where my arguement is going nor is generated from.
 
For any idea to hold meaning it must have practicle consequences in experience. 
 
My aim is to clarify just what is meant by Pragmatic truth, and it's relationship with dynamic 
quality.I'm not trying to waste your time.
 
I appreciate your response
-Ron
 
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