[MD] kill all intellectual patterns

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 16:43:50 PST 2012


Hi Ant,
Good to hear from you!

 dmb's posts deal with MoQ is a two dimensional fashion.  They do not deal
with Quality.  He himself has told me that Quality cannot be discussed.  I
wonder then what the "Q" stands for in MoQ.  If I created a metaphysics of
Beauty, don't you think it would be about beauty?  Pirsig's MoQ is about
Quality, that is all it is about.  The fact that dmb does not want to
discuss this and instead dwells on politics or some history of James
(philosophology), tells me that he does not want to discuss MoQ, but has an
agenda of his own.

dmb's posts are like describing a motorcycle ride by simply explaining the
mechanics of a motorcycle.  What about the rest of it?  Where does Quality
fit in with what dmb presents?

Since you are attending, do you think that Pirsig's MoQ is a good
presentation of Quality?  If so, why?  I assume you have thought about
this.  I asked you this in the past, but you ran away.

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the usefulness of MoQ in its presentation
of Quality.  We are discussing MoQ, aren't we?

Please stop the complaining and post something of substance.  This is
becoming a witch hunt, or some misguided play for power.  All I want to do
is discuss MoQ, not form camps and do battle.  I do not play favorites and
take issue with or agree with everyone all the time.  I can be convinced.
Yet dmb presents nothing new.  Let's stimulate a discussion.  Let's be
creative.  Let's discuss the appropriateness of MoQ in terms of its
metaphysical presentation of Quality.

How about it Ant?  Pretty please?

Cheers,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Ant McWatt <antmcwatt at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Mark stated Nov 21st:
>
> When dmb requests an appropriate reading of Pirsig, he is pointing towards
> interpretation.  What often happens with any fundamental presentation of
> Reality is the high jacking of such interpretation into dogma.  This is the
> danger I see with dmb's pronouncements.  It would seem that he regards
> himself as the True interpreter of Pirsig's writings...
>
> Ant comments:
>
> For the record, so does Pirsig.  For a beginner who'd like to know about
> Pirsig's work in more depth, I don't think there is a better source than
> DMB's Discuss posts. Of course, there's been quite a few good posters here
> over the years but DMB just been more consistent than anyone else.  An
> Anti-troll if you like!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ant-i Troll
>
>
> P.S. Mark, you don't have a "Don King" hairstyle, by any chance?  :-)
>
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