[MD] Nietzsche on truth

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Marsha, my dear,
I thought that one aim of MoQ was to get away from SOM; that it was to criticize customary modes of Western thought.  Yet you keep interrupting the forum with quotes directly out of Western metaphysics as is this we're a high school class in western philosophy.  Why can't you get beyond that?  You have been in this forum far too long for any excuses.  If you want to discuss European philosophy, why not go to a forum dedicated to that?


Cheers,

Mark

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:59 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> Hi Mark,
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> Oh, and I thought you had it as the metaphysics of meaning?  Or maybe you'd have it be a metaphysics dedicated to whatever your automatic writing pulls up from your depths.  What you measure to be relevant? Good one!  -  Does a  _host of metaphors, metonymies and anthropomorphisms_  sound like some object.  Either way, all this messy talk of "truths" with its long, broad and deep philosophical connotations, denotation and conflict leads me to prefer to use RMP's term for objects of knowledge: static patterns of value.  On your recommendation it seems to be to stick to the MoQ vernacular when it suits you and ignore it as 'only a model' when it doesn't suit you.  I think I'll pay you no mind.  
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> Marsha
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> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:01 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ah yes, but that is only truth when it is converted into an object.  Is what our friend N says true?
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>> In Quality, truth is not some object.  If you want to stick with SOM, be my guest.  I thought this was a metaphysics of Quality.  As such I do not find N to be relevant.  There are other forums for that.
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>> Mark
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>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:30 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>   "What then is truth? A movable host of metaphors, metonymies, and; anthropomorphisms: in short, a sum of human relations which have been poetically and rhetorically intensified, transferred, and embellished, and which, after long usage, seem to a people to be fixed, canonical, and binding. Truths are illusions which we have forgotten are illusions- they are metaphors that have become worn out and have been drained of sensuous force, coins which have lost their embossing and are now considered as metal and no longer as coins.
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>>>   "We still do not yet know where the drive for truth comes from. For so far we have heard only of the duty which society imposes in order to exist: to be truthful means to employ the usual metaphors. Thus, to express it morally, this is the duty to lie according to a fixed convention, to lie with the herd and in a manner binding upon everyone..."
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>>> http://www.davemckay.co.uk/philosophy/nietzsche/nietzsche.php?name=nietzsche.1873.ontruthandliesinanonmoralsense 
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