[MD] The Art of Philosophy

Fri Oct 19 09:46:10 PDT 2012

Jan-Anders,

That was soooo hilarious.  Time to move on to writing screenplays and directing your own films!  -  It's all storying-telling (I cannot help it.) and yours was perfect.  

Marsha 

On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:

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> 19 okt 2012 kl. 18.08 skrev MarshaV:
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>> Hi Jan-Anders,
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>> "This video contains content from geotv, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."   
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>> You have a happy weekend too.  
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>> 
>> Marsha  
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>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote:
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>>> Hi all
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>>> Wish you a happy weekend.
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>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW8ul1kuook
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>>> Jan Anders
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>>> 18 okt 2012 kl. 03.07 skrev david buchanan:
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>>>> "Harry Truman, of all people, comes to mind, when he said, concerning his administration's programs, 'We'll just try them -- and if theydon't work -- why then we'll just try something else.' That may not be an exact quote, but it's close. The reality of the American government isn't static, he said, it's dynamic. If we don't like it, we'll get something better. The American government isn't going to get stuck on any fancy doctrinaire ideas. The key word is 'better' - Quality.  ...The point is that the President and everyone else, from the wildest radical to the wildest reactionary, agrees that the government SHOULD change in response to Quality, even if it doesn't.  ...And what Harry Truman said, really, was nothing different from the practical, pragmatic attitude of any laboratory scientist or any engineer or any mechanic when he's not thinking 'objectively' in the course of his daily work."  (ZAMM 284-5)
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>>>>> From: dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
>>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:49:14 -0600
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Art of Philosophy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> MRB said:
>>>>> Centralized government systems only work for defense and justice-administration - at best.   This is because government is inertial.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark said:
>>>>> Yes, and the smallest government possible to administer these things.  This is because of the expense of government.
>>>>> 
>>>>> dmb says:
>>>>> I'll bet a hundred bucks that neither one of you bothered to read the article. If you had, you'd realize how un-pragmatic you're being.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Still, while James did want us to believe, he also wanted us to give up “ideologies.” He called pragmatism “[t]he attitude of looking away from first things, principles, ‘categories,’ supposed necessities; and of looking towards last things, fruits, consequences, facts.” Pragmatists can have principles but not self-verifying ones; they renounce any certainties that are based on claims of universal necessity.  In our world of chance and change, things may not go the way we want either intellectually or practically, so we have to look to the developing world of actions and results for support of, and challenges to, our most cherished faiths. The final test of even our logic is how well it leads us to act and live. Pragmatists therefore think, and act, provisionally, or subject to later changes in course."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "In 2006, Obama, then the junior senator from Illinois wrote in his memoir “The Audacity of Hope”, that the Constitution, rather than being a dead document based on settled principles, is “designed to force us into a conversation” and offers “a way by which we argue about our future.” And he criticized his own Democratic party for failing to bring new ideas to this argument, having become “the party of reaction”: “In reaction to a war that is ill-conceived, we appear suspicious of all military action. In reaction to those who proclaim the market can cure all ills, we resist efforts to use market principles to tackle pressing problems. In reaction to religious overreach, we equate tolerance with secularism and forfeit the moral language that would help infuse our policies with a larger meaning.” Obama challenged both parties to leave behind their ideological boilerplate and develop something new, something that all Americans can come to believe in."
>>>>> 
>>>>> And how do you guys respond? In knee-jerk fashion with the same old ideological boilerplate we've all heard a thousand times, that's how.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sigh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Troll, troll, troll away...
>>>>> 
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