[MD] belief

[MarshaV]

Hi Joe,

I have the MoQ as Reality = Quality(Dynamic/static).  There is no additional 'something' called 'belief'.  

'Believe' is in the dictionary, and for that reason I might think that, because it is a part of language, it is social pattern.  Does it represent anything in either the inorganic or biological level?  Is 'believing' ritualistic?  Is it a process of social culturalization?  Is it used as an object in intellectual inquiry?  

I admit the emotional component is as interesting as the conscious component in in the process of experiencing.  Can they be separate or are they co-dependent?  Interesting questions. 

Marsha 



On Oct 27, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha and All,
> 
> IMHO to believe is emotional DQ experience.  To know my belief is
> intellectual DQ/SQ.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 10/27/12 3:22 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> "To believe is to know you believe, and to know you believe is not to
>> believe."
>>      (Sartre, Jean-Paul)
>> 
>> Not this, not that.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:46 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> I am not sure of the reflection part.  The sound that I am hearing I am
>>> creating with my ears and brain.  Sound is the process of transformation.
>>> 
>>> Belief?  Belief is that relationship we create with existence.  Such belief
>>> could be Quality.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:03 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ... changed the subject
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> It seems to me the sound you are hearing ("It sounds like ...") is a
>>>> reflection of your own voice and song.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What else might be said about belief...
>>>> 
>>>> James P. Carse, Religious War In Light of the Infinite Game, SALT talk (1'
>>>> 18"):   
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIP6HilbWE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 10:43 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for that Marsha.  It sounds like the certainty of belief.  I
>>>>> appreciate your honesty.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 9:50 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have found contentment with my own ignorance which has led to a deep,
>>>>>> endless respect for the question over and above any possible answer.  For
>>>>>> me, it is the question that contains intuition and caring.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 3:42 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>> At the moment, the continuous present is valuable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha
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