[MD] belief

[david buchanan]

 dmb said to Mark and Marsha:
...It's not that you need to understand what I mean by the distinction but rather what Pirsig and James mean to say. This is Pirsig quoting William James in LILA, at the end of chapter 29:

" 'There must always be a discrepancy between concepts and reality, because the former are static and discontinuous while the latter is dynamic and flowing.' Here James had chosen exactly the same words Phaedrus had used for the basic subdivision of the Metaphysics of Quality." 
...There is plenty of textual evidence that shows the importance this distinction. "Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions. Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable in the sense that there is a knower and a known,..."


Mark replied:

...Tell me dmb,  what does the metaphysics you have created have to do with Qualiity.  That is, based on your understanding of Quality, how does your metaphysics fit in? How does your metaphysics describe Quality.  If you answer this at least I can figure out where you are coming from. Is your metaphysics OF Quality, or is it OF something else?


dmb says:
We're talking about Pirsig's philosophy and Pirsig's words, not my metaphysics. You said you didn't understand the claim that that "there must always be a discrepancy between concepts and reality". So I showed you that this was a claim made by James and quoted by Pirsig and tried to explain what THEY mean by it.
Your question shows that you did not comprehend that explanation because the answer was already there. "Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions." Unlike the intellectual abstractions, which are "static and discontinuous", "reality,.. is dynamic and flowing". Immediate experience is reality, is DQ. Quality is the primary empirical reality and static quality is always derived from this dynamic flux. That what Pirisg means when he says "Quality is the source and substance of everything". This is how he puts the Good over the true too. All static intellectual quality is derived from this primary empirical reality and is only true insofar as it sucessfully answers to this reality. 
Oh, never mind. You don't really believe that you need to be corrected on this. You're not gonna listen to me.