[MD] not by reasoning

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Hi Jan-Anders,
I would expand you description of static quality.  It may be more useful to say that static quality are patterns that we create.  Our propensity to define is just one example.  The are many undefined things that can also be SQ, such as "the undefined".  Experience is crated first, then comes our creation of patterns, then come definitions.  Definitions are the terminal form of SQ.

Just a suggestion.


Mark

On Sep 4, 2012, at 3:06 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:

> Dear Marsha
> 
> No need for balance, huh? So why do trees and human stand up then?
> Anyone who is learning is trying to find his best way to choose his direction through time.
> 
> Static Quality is NOT Dynamic Quality. Static quality is definitions, DQ is not.
> 
> The experience of Quality, or excellence, is experiencing balance. Stupidity is doing the wrong thing.
> You should see that from reading the number of experiences in my book, MALC, or what was it that made you laugh?
> 
> Laughter, love and the smell of good bread is Quality experience. I like that.
> 
> Jan Anders
> 
> 
> 
> 4 sep 2012 kl. 10.53 skrev MarshaV:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jan-Anders,
>> 
>> Balance by what measurement and whose standards?  The fundamental nature of static quality is Dynamic Quality.  There is no need for balance.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha and others
>>> 
>>> Whatever quote you bring in here, it could always be better, right? Pardon my English.
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to learn my horse to understand words. She definitely know what I mean with Stop, Walk, Slow, Trot, Run and now she's beginning to learn the difference between Left and Right. Still she's got her own opinion about a lot of things. She doesn't ask for being educated at all but she's not unreasonable. No ride is like the other. Finding balance is the main object.
>>> 
>>> Making bread and cooking is as good to learn balance, isn't it? Not to mention Motorcycle Maintenance.
>>> 
>>> Jan Anders
>>> 
>>> 4 sep 2012 kl. 10.04 skrev MarshaV:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "While I am thinking about it there is a very good book on Buddhism recently out called 'Buddhism, Plain and Simple', by Steve Hagen and published by Tuttle Publishing. I recommend you get it because it shows the similarities, between the MOQ and Zen Buddhism more clearly than any other I have seen."
>>>> 
>>>>       Pirsig to McWatt, May 6th 1998.
>>>> 
>>>> ~
>>>> 
>>>> "We can't comprehend Reality with our intellects.  We can't pull it into a static view of some thing.  All our explanations are necessarily provisional.  They're just rigid frames of what is actually motion and fluidity.  In other words, if you think of how Reality is, you can be sure that's how it isn't.  Reality simply cannot be put into conceptual form --- not even through analogy, for there's nothing like it.  Reality simply doesn't fit into concepts at all.  
>>>> 
>>>>     (Hagen, Steve, ‘Buddhism: Plain and Simple’, p.71)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> RMP:
>>>> ... Remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object or a subject or anything else. It is understood by direct experience only and not by reasoning of any kind...
>>>> 
>>>> DG:
>>>> Direct experience does not mean direct experience per se but rather experience directly perceived. It may just be a matter of semantics but I have always argued there is no such thing as direct experience. Now I sense I have been looking at the question backwards, so to speak.
>>>> 
>>>> RMP:
>>>> Yes
>>>>       (LILA's CHILD) 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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