[MD] just fishing (for truth)

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Hi Ron,
Thank you for furthering the discussion on Quality.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:57 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

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> Mark had said]
> OK, lets say that Truth as discussed from the Quality perspective, an
> Quality as discussed from the Truth perspective are the same thing, as you
> state.  How about if we discuss Quality?  Are you game for this.  This is,
> after all, MOQ.
>
> How would you present Quality to open the discussion, I have tried many
> times.  Don't give us this undefinable nonsense for the same can be said of
> Truth.  Let us discuss a metaphysics based on Quality.  What does this mean
> to you?
>
> [Ron replies]
> Thats right Mark, it points to discussions regarding the subject matter of
> Dynamic Quality. Definitions, descriptions and explanations
> are provisional, they must be open to revision because the test of any
> definition, description and explanation is the Dynamic flow of
> experience. Now, to say all definition, description and explanation is
> "hypothetical" is to only look at one side of the coin so to speak,
> It ignores this provisional nature and the test of it's value, in fact it
> ignores the very nature of value itself.
>
> A metaphysics based on Quality is the development of meaning in experience
> it is the perpetual inquirey of what are the best things
> in life.
>

Mark:
So, if I understand your response you are saying that a discussion of
Quality points to DQ.  I am not quite sure how this works, since is not
Quality both DQ and SQ?  As I understand it, a metaphysics based on Quality
creates a division between both DQ and SQ.  Perhaps you can explain your
response.  Is part of a discussion of Quality the supposition that
descriptions are provisional?  If so, is you description of Quality itself
provisional?  Perhaps it will soon not regard the subject matter of DQ.  My
question would be, how does this change happen.  That is, what controls
provisionality?  And how does this concept point towards Quality?

So far as I can tell, experience is something we create.  Unless you are
claiming that experience is floating around as some kind of force outside
of us.  If that is the case, we would not call it experience I do not
think.   Are you saying that our creation of experience is the test of what
we create?  I do not understand this, and perhaps you could break this down
for me.  This is, if you are interested in discussing Quality.  If Quality
is of no interest to you, then you can tell me so.

It would seem that you are placing a "test of its value" outside of value
itself.  Perhaps I am wrong with my interpretation of what you are saying.
 Could you explain what is doing the testing, and how such a thing has any
part in truth?  Is testing a truth discoverer?  If so, what makes this true?

I am most confused by your last statement: "A metaphysics based on Quality
is the development of meaning in experience it is the perpetual inquiry of
what are the best things in life."  So, a metaphysics based on Quality is
one of creating meaning.  How is this any different to any other
metaphysics?  It also seems that you think MOQ is for determining what is
best.  How does this work exactly.  I am simply asking you to further
expand on your statements so that I can understand what you mean by Quality.

Is Quality something you are interested in discussing?  Does Quality matter
to you?  Or are you more interested in Truth?

Just wondering.

Thanks,
Mark

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