[MD] social engagement

[MarshaV]

Greetings Mark and all,

I would like to say a few more words about this lecture because I want everyone to watch it for some important MoQ reasons.  In this talk, David Loy traces the intellectual concern for social justice, and the understanding that humans can restructure society to make it better, back to the Greeks, and makes it a fundamental of the West intellectual point-of-view.  He suggests that before that society was understood to be "the nature of things".  Loy seems to point to a clear division between the social level and the intellectual level which does not include "the East."  I think the talk offers import considerations when defining the intellectual level and differentiating it from the social level, and also offers some strongly worded flaws in its development.   


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1e7Zysfkj0   

 
Marsha



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Hi Mark,


I think the title is self explanatory.  Rather than offer a synopsis, David Loy presented a bit of a quote by Gary Snyder written sixty years ago:

"The mercy of the West has been social revolution; the mercy of the East has been individual insight into the basic self/void. We need both. They are both contained in the traditional three aspects of the Dharma path: wisdom (prajna), meditation (dhyana), and morality (sila). Wisdom is intuitive knowledge of the mind of love and clarity that lies beneath one’s ego-driven anxieties and aggressions. Meditation is going into the mind to see this for yourself — over and over again, until it becomes the mind you live in. Morality is bringing it back out in the way you live, through personal example and responsible action, ultimately toward the true community of “all beings.”"


Marsha



On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:11 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> Before I watch this could you give a synopsis on how it relates to MOQ?  Then I can watch it for this insight.
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> Thanks,
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> Mark
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> On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:16 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>> Greetings,
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>> Why Buddhism and the West Need Each Other: the non duality of personal and social transformation by David Loy 
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1e7Zysfkj0   
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>> Marsha:  
>> This is a long and insightful lecture for those who have the interest and time.  The good and evil mindset that might be embedded as a cultural point-of-view as seen through those ever-present cultural glasses.  
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>> Marsha 
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