[MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice

[MarshaV]

Joe,

Directly experiencing DQ is directly realizing that there is nothing (nothing divisible, definable and knowable) persisting from moment to moment.  


Marsha



On Mar 31, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha V, and All,
> 
> Fundamental nature needs some consideration in DQ/SQ metaphysics.  If
> something is indefinable, there must be some congruent indefinable way to
> perceive it.  I call that perception  DQ.  The conceivable conception is
> definable SQ.
> 
> Jode
> 
> 
> On 3/29/13 12:38 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello Joe,
>> 
>> I understand the fundamental nature of static quality (determinate) to be
>> Dynamic Quality (indeterminate).  With this being a good analogy of that
>> relationship.
>> 
>> "Water is distinct from ice, but in the ice cube it is present: not as a fly
>> might be trapped there, but _in the very ice_.  And yet when the ice cube is
>> gone, the water remains.  Although we see water as ice, we do so not because
>> it is there separately, to be seen from behind or apart from the cube."
>> 
>>       (Iain McGilchrist, 'The MASTER and his EMISSARY:
>>              The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World', p.
>> 452). 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>> 
>>> I am confused!
>>> 
>>> Do you view dynamic (indefinable) quality and static (definable) quality as
>>> having the same fundamental nature and only a difference in time or location
>>> for definition? 
>>> 
>>> I observe a value in the definition of perception (individual) as different
>>> from the definition of the conception of creation or evolution.
>>> 
>>> IMHO 
>>> Metaphysical DQ/SQ makes possible an evolution of levels in existence.
>>> 
>>> Joe 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/28/13 8:53 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For me, this is a good analogy for 'the fundamental nature of static quality
>>>> is Dynamic Quality.'
>>