[MD] perceptions

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue Apr 2 10:18:07 PDT 2013


Marsha:
Though, I wonder why you put perceptions (sensual experience) in with concepts (linguistic experience) and assign them both as intellectualizing.  I thought you associated intellectualizing with language.  Perception (sensual experience) does not require language.  imho. 
 

 




On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:27 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:20 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Marsha said:
>> In mindful awareness (mindfulness) one drops the narration (language) function for a more perceptual (immediate) experience, but there is still pattern identification in differentiating shapes, smells, sounds, tastes and touch.  The differentiating doesn't disappear with language.  The differentiating is there with perceiving too. 
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>> dmb says:
>> "Quality is shapeless, formless, indescribable. To see shapes and forms is to intellectualize. Quality is independent of any such shapes and forms. The names, the shapes and forms we give Quality depend only partly on the Quality. They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. We build up our language in terms of these analogues."                         
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> Marsha:
> Yes! 
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