[MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Jan-Anders Andersson
jananderses at telia.com
Thu Apr 4 04:19:20 PDT 2013
Eddo
4 apr 2013 kl. 11:56 skrev Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>:
> I am very fine, Thank you Jan! Like a rat in a sewer or a pig in the mud
>
> Jan said:
> In a scientific mode, scientists are doing research to find knowledge by
> using their tools and methods on objects, not upon themselves. It would
> look very funny with a group of astronomers pointing their mirror
> telescopes at each other instead of at the real stars.
>
> True! so? what's your point?
>
I think that the putpose of MD is about the MOQ not us.
Jam Anders
> I've heard however how some scientists try substances on themselves , like
> LSD, Aspirin and Viagra. I would prefer to try any suspicious drug on rats
> first.
>
> Go ahead! be my Guest! That's where Amsterdam outside it's borders is known
> for am i right?
>
> Greetings Eddo
>
> One more reply to go for today
>
>
> 2013/4/4 Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com>
>
>> How do you do Eddo?
>>
>> In a scientific mode, scientists are doing research to find knowledge by
>> using their tools and methods on objects, not upon themselves. It would
>> look very funny with a group of astronomers pointing their mirror
>> telescopes at each other instead of at the real stars.
>>
>> I've heard however how some scientists try substances on themselves , like
>> LSD, Aspirin and Viagra. I would prefer to try any suspicious drug on rats
>> first.
>>
>> JanAnders
>>
>>
>> 4 apr 2013 kl. 10.57 skrev Eddo Rats:
>>
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> Why don't you respond to the answers i gave you?
>>>
>>> Jeez. Is this a discussion group or a psychiatric hostipal?
>>>
>>> Are you becomming political here rather than philosophical?
>>>
>>> Greetings Eddo
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/4/4 ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> First book written in qr code entirely
>> http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/93a2090d-d655-42b1-a8fa-d59fd3401a07/free-kindle-book-written-entirely-in-qr-code-after-the-revolution-has-passed-us
>>>>
>>>> nice naming , device literature , language only as data-transfer
>>>> better attempt than importing math into language
>>>>
>>>> Adrie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/4/4 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Ant McWatt said:
>>>>> ..I probably receive correspondence about the "new secret of the
>>>> universe"
>>>>> once every month and most of this [...] is arcane nonsense.
>> However,
>>>>> being a philosopher (rather than a philosophiologist) is - I think
>>>> anyway -
>>>>> about trying to keep an open, beginner's mind. So despite the tons of
>>>>> bullshit that such a mind has to go through, at least there are the
>>>>> occasional pearls of wisdom such as the MOQ. Moreover, reading Eddo's
>>>> last
>>>>> couple of posts, I do think there might be a little more than
>> "psychotic
>>>>> nonsense" to his ideas (i.e. his answer to Dave that he's using
>>>> mathematics
>>>>> for his philosophical system as it is the least culturally biased
>>>>> "language" makes some sense; at least on face value). Anyway, it will
>> be
>>>>> interesting to see how this particular converstion pans out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dmb says:
>>>>> Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between brilliant and crazy
>> -
>>>>> but usually it's pretty damn easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I see it, Pirsig accomplished what he did despite his "illness", not
>>>>> because of it. He didn't see what he saw because he was insane but
>>>> because
>>>>> he did the work. He thought and thought and read and read for years and
>>>>> then he was faced with a practical problem in his professional life and
>>>> his
>>>>> solution was scrutinized by the community in which he worked and then
>>>> later
>>>>> by the "officials" at the University of Chicago. Even as he was getting
>>>>> himself thrown out, he thought "I'll just have to write my thesis in
>> some
>>>>> other way". And so he did. In one of the early interviews (NPR in 1974)
>>>> he
>>>>> describes ZAMM as "a dissertation embedded in a narrative". The
>> narrative
>>>>> is a powerful story of redemption to those who've suffered from mental
>>>>> illness, wherein madness is a divine gift and not a curse or a burden -
>>>>> but the dissertation stands or falls because it makes sense or it
>>>> doesn't.
>>>>> Sorry, but we don't get any extra points for the pain suffered in the
>>>>> production of a thesis. It's good a
>>>>> nd right or it's not so good and not so right.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is plenty of room to accommodate different tastes and
>>>> sensibilities.
>>>>> No reasonable person would be opposed to open-mindedness but we also
>> need
>>>>> to be discerning and sensitive to the qualities that separate good
>> ideas
>>>>> from confused or convoluted drivel. I'm not talking about formal rigor
>> or
>>>>> fancy rules. But can we not rule out the bat shit crazy, please?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeez. Is this a discussion group or a psychiatric hostipal?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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