[MD] turtles, or fun with metaphysics

[MarshaV]

Ron,

I take the turtle statement to represent explanation being analogy all the way down. What is interesting is how explanation MAY require one to stop at different levels depending on what is rhetorically useful to make a reasonable point.  Still, everything is an analogy, all the way down, and all the way out.  I am not suggesting that everything is meaningless.  I agree with the Metaphysics of Quality's central idea that the world is nothing but value.    


Marsha 



On Apr 5, 2013, at 9:58 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> The most meaningful places to draw lines is at their value in experience, if lines were drawn randomly
> or whimsicaly (whererever we want them) they would not hold as great a meaning, if any at all.
> 
> The turtles analogy represents the infinite reduction problem, and as we know, Pirsig identifies it as a false
> philosophical problem.
> 
> Value is not infinite and meaningless, in fact the very meaning of the word is usefulness. Excellence is another
> term used to describe value as well as importance. Value is limit, value is drawing a line.
> 
> And value is the at center of experience. 
> 
> .-Ron
> 
> 
> 
> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: MoQ <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> 
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 1:55 AM
> Subject: [MD] turtles, or fun with metaphysics
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Being that it's turtles all the way down, it is interesting to see where one draws the line.  Yesterday the line was drawn above the second turtle from the bottom (infinity).  Today, wanting to include some interesting point, the line is drawn above the fourth turtle from the top.  One wants to be accommodating; one wants to present a "rational" explanation; one wants to make sense; and one wants to share the insight.  But...  But in the end the line is drawn like the spinning seed pods of the maple tree, self-generating whirlybirds drifting on a lazy, lovely breeze.
> 
> 
> Marsha
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