[MD] perceptions

[MarshaV]

Joe,

And this is the level of turtles where you choose to draw the line?  It makes you comfortable to name it 'consciousness'?  That's your stopping point?  That's what is workable for you?  That is what is useful?  

What do you mean by 'direct perception'?   To the question "What is that?", the mind may adjust the visual data, but not apply language?  Or do you have a different explanation?  


Marsha



On Apr 6, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Something that has not been discussed is 'How do we know things?'  DQ/SQ
> metaphysics accept that we know the indefinable through direct experience.
> How can that be put into common concepts?  It can't!  Its DQ.
> 
> We know indefinable DQ only in our individuality which is indefinable.
> Direct perception is the faculty for experiencing the indefinable.  And all
> I can say is "What is that?"  For myself I answer 'Consciousness'.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 4/6/13 2:21 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, unknowable in the sense that there is a known and knower, so not
>> "conceptually knowable." How about known through direct perception?
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