[MD] perceptions

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi MarshaV and All,

I sense no urgency in trying to come to grips with metaphysics.  MOQ tweaks
the logic of SOM!  I am not convinced that I have a proper conception of
logic.  An open forum seems to be the most rewarding test for logic.  I am
sorry I am so obscure.  Good luck to you!

Joe


On 4/7/13 4:21 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> You're one your own.  I am not sure what you are talking about.
>  
>  
> Marsha
>  
> 
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha V and All,
>> 
>> SOM's theory of how we know things was through abstraction of the essence
>> from reality by the mind, giving it intentional existence in the mind using
>> a definable word form from a template of previous experience.
>> 
>> MOQ, Pirsig suggests knowledge is the direct experience of reality  DQ/SQ.
>> Dreams can follow that experiential reality, creating analogues mocking
>> reality?
>> 
>> How can I know indefinable DQ?  For me consciousness seems to be the only
>> reality that identifies a capability of an indefinable direct experience of
>> DQ.  Dreams are interesting and creative mocking consciousness.  They seem
>> so real.  Nightmares!
>> 
>> Joe 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/6/13 9:50 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> What do you mean by 'direct perception'?   To the question "What is that?",
>>> the mind may adjust the visual data, but not apply language?  Or do you have
>>> a
>>> different explanation?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html