[MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Jan Anders Andersson
jananderses at telia.com
Tue Apr 9 05:03:02 PDT 2013
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Eddo, are you kidding?
Have you considered checking up the results from the research of Wilhelm Reich?
Frank Zappa used a chicken to measure it? :-) in the story of Uncle Meat I think. Right Horse?
careful with thing
Jan Anders
9 apr 2013 kl. 02.37 skrev Eddo Rats:
> @ Adrie
>
> These are all the potential resonance rise points although I think that in
> case of exitement you dont go beyond a fase shift 90 degrees. I think that
> on every static MOQ level there energy release effects take place.
>
> On a organic quality level i think that a sexual orgasm causes a discreet
> amount of energy loss at the point of 90 degrees fase shift.
>
> I would like to analyse data of men of different age groups. I would like
> to know their hartrate at rest and their hart rate when having an orgasm.
>
> Mine is 104/120 = 0,86666666666666667 inverse sinus is about 30 degrees
> The difference between the stable 60 degrees fase shift state and the
> resonance rise 90 degrees fase shift state.
>
> Coincedence?????????? only scientific data can tell!
>
>
> On a social level the same kind of effects happen. I think that laughing
> is a sort of energy release of discreet amounts after each other
>
>
>
>
> 2013/4/8 ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
>
>> 180° 90° 0° 90° 180
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>
>>
>>> @Adrie
>>> Correction again1:
>>>
>>> I thought my phase shifted formula represented the mu state according to
>>> Pirsig but I am Not sure now
>>>
>>> e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt (when cos wt = cos -wt)
>>> .
>>> This is the stable state, like a 3 phase motor or generator
>>>
>>> When you add energy(increasing rotation speed, exitement, increase
>>> heartrate) you come at a potential resonance rise point at phase +pi/2 or
>>> +90° This is Technally the same potential resonance rice point as at
>> phase
>>> 0pi or 2pi where you potentially come by energy and rotation speed
>>> reduction. than this point must represent wu and at 90 degrees must be
>> wei.
>>> than sixty degrees must be the middle stable way. I am just speculating
>>> here, other poeple can have other opinions.
>>>
>>> Greetings Eddo Rats =4th post so enough for today. :D
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> correction again; mu state: e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt
>> (when
>>>> cos wt = cos -wt)
>>>>
>>>> Just woke up this can't be right, the math in my head is graphical,
>>> that's
>>>> why these errors. I am an Engineer, not a Mathematiciam :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/4/7 Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> correction; basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^-(iwt+pi/3) =
>>>>> coswt (when cos wt = cos -wt)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Adrie
>>>>>> Net terug van muziek sessie. Maak je geen zorgen over mijn
>>>>>> opslingeringen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're worries about my state of resonance rise gives me the idea
>> that
>>>>>> you seem to understand the direction i want to go to. I am taking
>> some
>>>>>> more time to write a propper answer to your mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for the time being i can tell you my findings of the mu state in
>>> the
>>>>>> wave equation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The resonance rise situation is dangerous because you are than
>>>>>> suceptable to energy absorbtion. I don't yet know what kind of Energy
>>> but
>>>>>> it causes your sensation levels to rise above sustainable levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Famous mechanical example of resonance rise too! high: tecoma bridge
>>>>>> resonance rise! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like this bridge can distort and break a subconscious mind can
>>>>>> distort(psychosis) and break(schizofrenia, dissosiation disorders)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe i found the mu state in resonanance theory but have never
>>> been
>>>>>> able to communicate it with anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> basic resonance rise equation: e^iwt + e^-iwt = 2coswt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^(-iwt+pi/3) = coswt
>> (when
>>>>>> cos wt = cos -wt)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> met vriendelijke groeten Eddo Rats
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/4/6 ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eddo, read learrn and chill-out a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mu state . Zen and the art.......someone quoting Roberts
>> observations
>>> on
>>>>>>> wiki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)*<
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good but no good article.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under “unasking the question” there is a snippet from Zen where
>> Robert
>>>>>>> makes a numer of big mistakes.The entire thinkingline of Robert
>> about
>>>>>>> circuits and on/off caracteristics is wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Computercircuits are never in a Mu-state.Only on first sight they
>> seem
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be awaiting for zero power or power on as in on/off.What Robert is
>>>>>>> depicting is a normal light circuit,a bulb, power on or of light on
>> or
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> , zero or not zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Integrated computer circuits have three different states, and zero
>> or
>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>> zero is not one of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> High impendance (!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_impedance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You will be able to find digital electronics and analogue
>> electronics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now it is very easy to find where Robert goes wrong ,In digital
>>>>>>> electronics
>>>>>>> and computer circuits there are three different states, and they are
>>>>>>> not Mu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert tought that analogue electronics have the same properties of
>>> the
>>>>>>> digital ones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not being an electronic engineer,Robert will always miss the word he
>>> was
>>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to make his entire point of view correct....”resonance rise” this
>> was
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> term he missed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and to understand this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(alternating-current_circuits)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now my point for you Eddo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are taking the term “resonance rise” out of the technical
>>>>>>> connotation
>>>>>>> and understand it as “Opslingering”but this connotation makes me
>>> realise
>>>>>>> where you want to point out with your wave equations, you are trying
>>> to
>>>>>>> avoid your own mu states,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but fail to find the words, like Pirsig.Pirsig avoided his own Mu
>>>>>>> states!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The trick is in the imaginary slow-motion of indiana jones his whip,
>>> the
>>>>>>> resonance rise in de wave is reflecting back to the hand that is on
>>> the
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of the whip,but the reflection moves up in amplitude depending on
>> the
>>>>>>> lenght of the whip and the induced amplitude in the first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This kind of reasearch is what you should be performing Eddo,instead
>>> of
>>>>>>> pissing of Mr Buchanan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> en Blijf weg van “opslingering”!--resonance rise, en de stilte van
>> de
>>>>>>> Mu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Study these things before you will become Mu only, there is enough
>> to
>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Groet , Adrie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/4/6 Eddo Rats <eddo4u at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @dumb
>>>>>>>> Typical you to pick this part being my soft spot as someone with a
>>>>>>>> psychiatric hystory being honest about it. You are not a
>> philosopher
>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>>> moq philosophologist a politician and a narcistic priest that
>> wants
>>>>>>> me out
>>>>>>>> of his church. Good luck with your church. You win! :D probably
>>>>>>> dropped
>>>>>>>> mathematics at highschool. This is that above the door
>>>>>>>> Plato<
>> http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Plato.html
>>>>
>>>>>>>> inscribed
>>>>>>>> "Let no one who is not a geometer enter"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My advice to you, read ZMM where pirsig goes to chicago again and
>>>>>>> again and
>>>>>>>> again and again. Look in the mirror and think very hard. To me
>>>>>>> you're a
>>>>>>>> lost case but never give up hope .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/4/5 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eddo answered the million dollar question: What's the point?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...Understanding this relationship became even more important
>>> during
>>>>>>>>> psychotic episodes when i noticed that the amounts of sensation
>> i
>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>> deal with became so high that it had a distorting effect on the
>>>>>>>> personality
>>>>>>>>> i was (as a collection of concepts in my subconscious mind).
>> This
>>>>>>> made me
>>>>>>>>> even work harder to be able to understand this relationship.
>> Now
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>> twenty years i thought of a way to understand this, and this
>> gives
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>>> in my head to regulate myself when the sensations tend to become
>>> to
>>>>>>> high.
>>>>>>>>> So "the point" to me has very personal value...
>>>>>>>>> P.S. Lets continue this discussion in the new thread i made
>>> "Quality
>>>>>>>>> defined!" because we are hijacking this thread which was started
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> another purpose by somebody else.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dmb says:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I'm not interested. Since Pirsig says (about a
>> thousand
>>>>>>> times)
>>>>>>>>> that Quality can't be defined and since your interested in
>> mostly
>>>>>>>> yourself,
>>>>>>>>> I don't think you're even talking about the MOQ. That's the
>> point
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> purpose of this forum and I'm not qualified to help you regulate
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> sensations anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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