[MD] Independent reality?

[david buchanan]

David Morey said:
Does SQ exist prior to its appearance in the individual known as Lila? ...How we 'came to be' in history, prior to our experience, if it talks like a realist and walks like a realist....


dmb says:

I've already replied to this with explanations and quotes from Pirsig on exactly point. Please check the archives and put a big fat ditto on it. Print it out and make a refrigerator magnet out of it. 



"In our highly complex organic state we advanced organisms respond to our environment with an invention of many marvelous analogues. We invent earth and heavens, trees, stones and oceans, gods, music, arts, language, philosophy, engineering, civilization and science. We call these analogues reality. And they are reality. We mesmerize our children in the name of truth into knowing that they are reality. We throw anyone who does not accept these analogues into an insane asylum. But that which causes us to invent the analogues is Quality. Quality is the continuing stimulus which our environment puts upon us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it."  --ZAMM, Ch. 20