[MD] Definitions.

[Krimel]

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From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Horse
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [MD] Definitions.

Hi Marsha

I've got to say that I agree with DMB about the contradiction of terms within your definition of self.
If something is static or stable how can it be ever-changing?
If something is static or stable it tends not to change over time or if it does change it changes slowly, thus retaining it's stability.
If something is ever-changing then it tends to be unstable and/or chaotic.
Patterns of value that are stable persist over time which would appear to be the antithesis of your definition.

If you insist that static patterns of value are ever changing - i.e. 
stable patterns are unstable - would you mind showing how you manage to overcome what appears to be an inconsistency in your definition.
I think I see what you're getting at but this part of your definition just doesn't appear to make sense and repeating it over and over offers no explanation.

Cheers

Horse



On 23/02/2013 09:18, MarshaV wrote:
> Greetings,
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> Re: self & static patterns of value
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> One definition I provide is concerning 'self'.  If one asks:  What is the relationship between the individual and static quality?  I'd answer: "The “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent static patterns: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual patterns of value flowing in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality."
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> My definition of static patterns of value is of repetitious and ever-changing process:
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> Static patterns of value are repetitive processes, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and ever-changing, that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.  Within the MoQ, these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure:  inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns:  patterns depend upon ( exist relative to) innumerable causes and conditions (patterns), depend upon (exist relative to) parts and the collection of parts (patterns), depend upon (exist relative to) conceptual designation (patterns). Patterns have no independent, inherent existence.  Further, these patterns pragmatically exist relative to an individual's static pattern of life history.
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