[MD] Is experience just DQ?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Jan 21 07:26:37 PST 2013


Greetings,

Have you been reading of the two-truth debate between Tsongkhapa and Gorampa?  Believe me, I have damaged some brain-cells (statically or conventionally speaking) in trying to follow the the various arguments, their associated consequences and refutations ; my mind shorted out (also conventionally speaking, I think...) more than once.  So even within the Buddhist community there are two different interpretations of the 'two-truth realities.'

Would you kill someone's character to prove you are right?  


Marsha



On Jan 21, 2013, at 7:59 AM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> 
> You are never going to understand me if you don't agree with me when I say that the MOQ allows multiple competing ideas to exist simultaneously.. 
> 
> In your view I contradict myself constantly when I say that Dynamic Quality is experience. And then later I will go on to say that experience is static quality..
> 
> So in support of the MOQ allowing multiple competing ideas to exist - I provide the following..
> 
> "Unlike subject-object metaphysics the Metaphysics of Quality does not insist on a single exclusive truth. If subjects and objects are held to be the ultimate reality then we're permitted only one construction of things - that which corresponds to the 'objective' world - and all other constructions are unreal. But if Quality or excellence is seen as the ultimate reality then it becomes possible for more than one set of truths to exist. Then one doesn't seek the absolute Truth.' One seeks instead the highest quality intellectual explanation of things with the knowledge that if the past is any guide to the future this explanation must be taken provisionally; as useful until something better comes along. One can then examine intellectual realities the same way one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with an effort to find out which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that are of value. There are many sets of intellectual reality in existence and we can perceive some to have more quality than others, but that we do so is, in part, the result of our history and current patterns of values." - Lila.
> 
> Now, I have some questions for you:
> 
> 
> Snip...  
> 



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