[MD] Metaphysics: what it is good for?

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi MarshaV and All

DQ/SQ! I accept this as a paradigm in communication for all reality in
discourse.  

A question that logically arises: If DQ is indefinable common reality, to
what can I appeal for verification of what I am talking about?  How do I
communicate to another my experience of the indefinable?  What words could I
possibly use?  I bypass words and make the appeal to the experience of
self-consciousness to facilitate common understanding.

I have to appeal to the different experience of consciousness instead of
definition when stating what I am putting into words is indefinable not
unknowable. DQ is not beyond or outside of conscious experience in a
sentient being.  Definable/indefinable metaphysics is tricky to explore.
Words matter! IMHO!

Joe


On 1/19/13 6:08 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Joe,
> 
> Beyond admitting to having a humble opinion, I have no idea what you are
> talking about. 
>  
>  
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>> 
>> IMHO In the DQ/SQ metaphysics DQ is experienced as indefinable.  Indefinable
>> DQ is differentiated from SQ by definition.  All experience is included in
>> an indefinable-definable format DQ/SQ from an emotional or intellectual
>> perspective.   
>> 
>> Can my experience of consciousness feel secure in the recognition of an
>> indefinable DQ definable SQ format for all of reality?
>> 
>> I recognize levels in DQ/SQ reality in a process called evolution.  Should I
>> look beyond determined levels in existence for reality?   Is 'evolution' as
>> levels in existence acceptable in metaphysics?  I want to avoid the word
>> "essence" as I comprehend its meaning when it is indefinable DQ only by
>> analogy.  I prefer "existence" as the format of DQ/SQ.  It doesn't balk at
>> an indefinable/definable explanation.
>> 
>> In MOQ, the experience of existence follows the indefinable/definable format
>> as the metaphysics of indefinable DQ, definable SQ reality.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/18/13 6:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Joe,
>>> 
>>> Since there is no clear question within your post that I could be accused of
>>> evading, I will remind you that it is all analogy.  If you don't like the
>>> analogy that I present at any given moment, ignore it or find your own;
>>> 
>>> Better yet "Find out for yourself."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ma
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO Indeterminate (DQ) does not need a special function in accepting the
>>>> indefinable to validate it.  Consciousness, in the awake sentient being,
>>>> upholds logic, DQ/SQ reality.  DQ/SQ metaphysics in consciousness is
>>>> adequate, discerning indeterminate (indefinable) DQ and determined
>>>> (definable) SQ.  To request a special logic for every event lowers
>>>> metaphysical discipline to a He said/She said format.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/18/13 3:33 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Seems to me perception is what is often being labeled 'immediate' but that
>>>>> is
>>>>> not the indeterminate (DQ).
>>>> 
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