[MD] Metaphysics: what it is good for?

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi MarshaV and All,

Mathematics is the order in definition, logical verification.  1 comes
before 2.  

In DQ/SQ metaphysics, indefinable/definable reality looks for verification,
truth, to yhe metaphysical reality DQ.

Metaphysical logic embraces duality in consciousness DQ/SQ.  It is
indefinable DQ or definable Sq.  I'm not sure. Metaphysics!  DQ
consciousness is a backbone when describing indefinable reality!

Metaphysics, DQ/SQ logic, supports both DQ, the indefinable experience of
reality, and SQ the definable experience. The defined logic of mathematics
supports only SQ manifestations.

DQ embraces evolution, as levels in existence.  SQ, the evolved levels
become boundaries of evolution, order.  The levels format the meaningful
chaos DQ/SQ, indefinable/definable reality.

Which metaphysical principal highlights boundaries for indefinable DQ/SQ
existence? IMHO Boundaries are DQ, revealed in DQ consciousness.  There are
limits for boundaries, SQ definition.  I can't jump on my horse and ride off
in all directions. 

Joe




On 1/21/13 7:41 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Joe,
> 
> The MoQ has the world nothing but Value.  What is this verification you want?
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi MarshaV and All
>> 
>> DQ/SQ! I accept this as a paradigm in communication for all reality in
>> discourse.  
>> 
>> A question that logically arises: If DQ is indefinable common reality, to
>> what can I appeal for verification of what I am talking about?  How do I
>> communicate to another my experience of the indefinable?  What words could I
>> possibly use?  I bypass words and make the appeal to the experience of
>> self-consciousness to facilitate common understanding.
>> 
>> I have to appeal to the different experience of consciousness instead of
>> definition when stating what I am putting into words is indefinable not
>> unknowable. DQ is not beyond or outside of conscious experience in a
>> sentient being.  Definable/indefinable metaphysics is tricky to explore.
>> Words matter! IMHO!
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/19/13 6:08 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> 
>>> Beyond admitting to having a humble opinion, I have no idea what you are
>>> talking about. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO In the DQ/SQ metaphysics DQ is experienced as indefinable.
>>>> Indefinable
>>>> DQ is differentiated from SQ by definition.  All experience is included in
>>>> an indefinable-definable format DQ/SQ from an emotional or intellectual
>>>> perspective.  
>>>> 
>>>> Can my experience of consciousness feel secure in the recognition of an
>>>> indefinable DQ definable SQ format for all of reality?
>>>> 
>>>> I recognize levels in DQ/SQ reality in a process called evolution.  Should
>>>> I
>>>> look beyond determined levels in existence for reality?   Is 'evolution' as
>>>> levels in existence acceptable in metaphysics?  I want to avoid the word
>>>> "essence" as I comprehend its meaning when it is indefinable DQ only by
>>>> analogy.  I prefer "existence" as the format of DQ/SQ.  It doesn't balk at
>>>> an indefinable/definable explanation.
>>>> 
>>>> In MOQ, the experience of existence follows the indefinable/definable
>>>> format
>>>> as the metaphysics of indefinable DQ, definable SQ reality.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/18/13 6:15 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since there is no clear question within your post that I could be accused
>>>>> of
>>>>> evading, I will remind you that it is all analogy.  If you don't like the
>>>>> analogy that I present at any given moment, ignore it or find your own;
>>>>> 
>>>>> Better yet "Find out for yourself."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ma
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IMHO Indeterminate (DQ) does not need a special function in accepting the
>>>>>> indefinable to validate it.  Consciousness, in the awake sentient being,
>>>>>> upholds logic, DQ/SQ reality.  DQ/SQ metaphysics in consciousness is
>>>>>> adequate, discerning indeterminate (indefinable) DQ and determined
>>>>>> (definable) SQ.  To request a special logic for every event lowers
>>>>>> metaphysical discipline to a He said/She said format.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/18/13 3:33 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems to me perception is what is often being labeled 'immediate' but
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not the indeterminate (DQ).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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