[MD] Horse, Is this proper conduct?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Mar 11 23:24:30 PDT 2013


x-man,

I am familiar with the term 'dukkha', but I am not a mind-reader and was unclear to what point he was making and why?  I thought to draw him out a bit.  For instance, I couldn't unpack the "That introduced a dry-hair, scratchy-shirt Puritanism we see in American Buddhism to this day."  Poetic as the statement might be, it was a bit general and slanderous.  Which "American Buddhism", and based on what source?  Was it based on Steve Hagen's book that RMP so highly recommended?  Am I to take such statements by Michael, or you, as literal and beyond question?   
 
Marsha





On Mar 12, 2013, at 1:03 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Woman of Mars,
> Didya try the link he provided?
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> derr
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> besides who fkn cares, you can either learn from it or ignore it..
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> my guess is you'll ignore it and bitch that Michael doesent know jack.
>  
> an thts a fact
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> 
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> ________________________________
> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: "moq_discuss at moqtalk.org" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> 
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Horse, Is this proper conduct?
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> 
> Michael,
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> What is your understanding of dukkha?  And how did you come to that understanding? 
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> Marsha
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> On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Michael R. Brown" <mrb at fuguewriter.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/11/2013 9:32 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> RMP: "When early Western investigators first read the Buddhist texts they too interpreted nirvana as some kind of suicide."
>> 
>> A lot of it goes back to that terrible mistranslation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha as "suffering.". That introduced a dry-hair, scratchy-shirt Puritanism we see in American Buddhism to this day.
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>> The Noble Truth is more like, "Like gets out of joint / doesn't run smoothly."
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>> The relation to ZMM and Lila - both of which have to do with smooth/unsmooth running - is obvious.
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>> MRB
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