[MD] Horse, Is this proper conduct?

[Horse]

Hiya Krim

On 11/03/2013 02:31, Krimel wrote:
> Horse,
>
> It is interesting in the Chinese sense to be writing here this week. I had
> forgotten how much fun it is. I join the others in thanking you for keeping
> this thing going.
Thank you - I enjoy running this list.

> I'm no angel. Which is in part why I am seeking your guidance.
Fair enough.

> You give examples of my profanity. If there is a ban on profanity I will
> abide by it. But I don't see any examples of insult, name calling, and
> personal attacks on your list of my offenses. I'm not suggesting that you
> can't find some. But that is the subject of my question. Insult, name
> calling, personal attacks can certainly be accomplished without the
> assistance of the profane. You are saying, no problem with that?
I'd say the same to you as I say to my kids. Swearing doesn't bother me, 
it's bad manners I don't like!
If you think it's OK to be ill-mannered then that says a lot about you 
and given the way you proceeded before DMB started having a go at you I 
think it's pointless (and very shallow) to complain when someone else 
retaliates in the same way.
What's your take on good manners? Do you have a position? If someone 
walked up to you in a bar and said to your wife or kids the sort of 
things you've said to others on this list what would be your reaction?
The whole point about having good manners is that you are the better 
person for having good manners.
I dunno, maybe it's an old-fashioned British thing (like me!) but I 
would agree with whoever said "Manners maketh the man"!


> Also, David implies below that he has been authorized to speak for Robert
> Pirsig. Pirsig has endorsed your forum as a place to discuss his ideas. Does
> he endorse this kind of expression of them?
No idea. I know I don't speak for him - I only speak for myself!

> I would disagree with your perception that I have been "trying to provoke a
> fight." I think there is a difference between provoking fight and refusing
> to be a doormat.
And sometimes a very fine line, the crossing of which should, where 
possible, be avoided.

> Anyway, I am sorry to make such poor use of your time but delighted to hear
> you are keeping busy.
Not too busy to reply where I can make the time. :)

>
> Krimel
>
> PS: By the way, you missed this one to dmb in a comparison of scatological
> and textual evidence:
>
> "Those Pirsig's are narrow minded buffoons, careless scholars, absolutely
> sure of their own self-righteousness, totally full of shit and as such
> impelled to pile it on the carpet and invite others to step in it.
> Fuck 'em."
I didn't miss it I just needed sufficient examples to illustrate my point!

Horse


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