[MD] Horse, Is this proper conduct?

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Marsha,

If dynamic quality, reality, is unknowable why use the term?  There is a
broad spectrum of the knowable.  What is unknowable describing?  Limits of
reality or limits of knowledge?

To discuss unknowable reality seems futile.  Supposing there is a broad
spectrum to the unknowable, how can we discover it?  It seems to me
discussion and unknowable are at odds unless you accept that indefinable and
unknowable are synonymous.

DQ is indefinable. IMHO Unknowable reality stretches the discussion of DQ
metaphysics to a leap of Faith.  I would rather rather tweak rationality
into the experience of indefinable DQ in consciousness rather than accept
indefinable DQ as a leap of faith.

Joe


On 3/14/13 4:07 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Greetings Joe,
> 
> I am perfectly satisfied with understanding the MoQ designating Reality =
> Value(Dynamic(indivisible, undefinable and unknowable)/static(divisible,
> definable and knowable))  :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi MarshaV,
>> 
>> I am too old (80 plus) to remember philosophy.  I want to jump immediately
>> to an indefinable as the limit on an aging process.  DQ is indefinable,
>> always new, so to speak, and I am alive!
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/13/13 11:30 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Joe,
>>> 
>>> I wondered if you might agree with Nietzsche?
>>> 
>>> "Compared with music all communication by words is shameless; words dilute
>>> and brutalize; words depersonalize; words make uncommon common."
>>>         (Nietzsche, Friedrich,  'Will To Power')
>>> 
>>> re fa la
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi MarshaV,
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO How to describe a theory of knowledge in DQ/SQ experience?  DQ,
>>>> indefinable self-consciousness along with definable SQ structure, enables
>>>> self-directed activity.
>>>> 
>>>> SQ, defined reality, places the limit of definition on an indefinable DQ
>>>> emotional self-consciousness.  Definitions aid communication.  Music is a
>>>> more immediate less structured communication in its emotional origins.
>>>> 
>>>> What is logic?  The Intellect and freewill of activity are tied to a common
>>>> limit, self-awareness.  I can't jump on my horse and ride off in all
>>>> directions.  Logic describes limits on knowledge in the structure of self
>>>> awareness DQ/SQ.
>>>> 
>>>> Music is an harmonious structure, more revealing in some ways in being less
>>>> subject to SQ discipline than logic.  Music evokes more intensity in its
>>>> indefinable emotional origins than intellectual logic.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/13/13 12:40 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Schopenhauer believed that the mediations of art in general, but
>>>>> particularly
>>>>> music, were more directly able to reveal the nature of reality than was
>>>>> philosophy.
>>> 
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