[MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sun Mar 31 23:47:13 PDT 2013


Joe,

"Strictly speaking, the creation of any metaphysics is an immoral act since it's a lower form of evolution, intellect, trying to devour a higher mystic one. The same thing that's wrong with philosophology when it tries to control and devour philosophy is wrong with metaphysics when it tries to devour the world intellectually. It attempts to capture the Dynamic within a static pattern. But it never does. You never get it right. So why try? It's like trying to construct a perfect unassailable chess game. No matter how smart you are you're never going to play a game that is 'right' for all people at all times, everywhere. Answers to ten questions led to a hundred more and answers to those led to a thousand more. Not only would he never get it right; the longer he worked on it the wronger it would probably get."
          (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 32) 

I like the terms 'determinate' and 'indeterminate'.  These terms are not confining to defining.   


Marsha 


On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha V and All,
> 
> In SOM metaphysics the theory of how we know things is the mind's ability to
> abstract the essence of an object and give it intentional existence in the
> intellect for communication by words.
> 
> The theory of knowledge of MOQ is direct experience.  I experience DQ,
> indefinable!  I experience SQ definable.  Words delineating experience like
> DQ are indefinable not patterns.  Emotions are indefinable and I suggest the
> base for the reality of DQ is indefinable emotion.
> 
> 
> On 3/29/13 3:33 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I observe a value in the definition of perception (individual) as different
>>> from the definition of the conception of creation or evolution.
>> 
>> If I am absorbed in talking to myself, I will not recognize the taste of
>> ginger, or the smell of earth after rain, or the feel of the breeze passing
>> over my cheek, or the sound of birdsong, or the sight of dancing leaves.
>> These too are patterns to be notice; patterns that are far more immediate than
>> the abstracted chatter and patterns that say much more about our relationship
>> to the world of value.   Remember your breath: I am breathing in, I am
>> breathing out... 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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