[MD] Exist

[MarshaV]

x-man, 

Seriously, I thought I presented a quote where RMP states that change was a concept, because I understand Dynamic Quality to be indivisible, unpatterned, prior to change.  I'm sure dmb didn't really mean Dynamic Quality was ever-changing; he was probably offering more parody, or something...  Or maybe he meant that direct perception (mindful awareness) was ever-changing.  Well, really, I don't know what he meant.  


Marsha




On May 2, 2013, at 8:04 PM, X <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> My finalpost is to u warwoman,
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> The reason no one answered your version of compare and discuss
> is that it is out of context.
> Change is a concept. yup. But what Dave is criticizing you of is your
> contradictory use of that concept. It renders your mantra even more
> impotent..it muddies things more than clarifys.
> It not worth posting on..
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> but you thought you stumped everyone did'nt you?
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> -heh
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> MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>> Hi Ian,
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>> All this whining that this is a list dedicated to intellectual discussion is nonsense when every time someone asks a question based on current intellectual patterns they are ridiculed.  It seems if the question cannot be satisfied with a RMP quote, it leaves everyone frightened, speechless.  The sarcasm, irony, parody and insults only demonstrates the shallowness of the MoQ understanding, and helps not one whit.  There seems to be open-minded discussion permitted.  Sad.  
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>> On May 2, 2013, at 3:29 AM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> He he. At least David H and David M tried.
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>>> The issue is back to the word "exist" I fear. Yes there is a world out
>>> there to be experienced. The world out there "exists".
>>> 
>>> Do patterns "exist" within it, static or otherwise? No the pure potential
>>> (and constrained potential, absences) for any number of patterns is what
>>> exists. The SPV's are our conceptualisations, we create those - they don't
>>> "exist" in the world out there.
>>> 
>>> Objects don't exist in the world out there
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>>> Ian
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