[MD] laws of thought

[MarshaV]

Hi dmb,  

On May 8, 2013, at 6:28 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

> dmb said:
> Again, the question is only whether or not logical contradictions are bad.
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> Marsha replied:
> Are they?  Hmmm.  It depends on context. 
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> ”The problem lies in the fact that Western intellectual history has been intent upon creating an understanding that is founded upon universal laws, and, in order to create such universal laws, we have attempted to eliminate all objects of thought to which such laws do not universal apply.  This, however, is irrational since there obviously are dynamic and holistic objects of thought to which the laws of thought do not universally apply."
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> dmb says:
> This quote does not apply. The problem described in this quote is not relevant to the question. The universal laws of thought are associated with Platonism and the correspondence theory of truth. The MOQ rejects all that and so do I. 
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> But the question remains and the answer is totally obvious; are logical contradictions bad or not? Yes, of course they are. And given the context, your contradictory use of the MOQ's key terms in a MOQ discussion group, that particular contradiction is very, very bad.

Marsha:
To David Harding you wrote "logical contradictions", so I thought you were addressing the law of non-contradiction.  But if not, on what basis do you find contradiction?  Here is my explanation/definition:

--- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes (multiple events), conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and ever-changing, that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.  Within the MoQ, these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure:  inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.  Patterns have no independent, inherent existence. ---


> This is just another case wherein you foolishly misapply quotes that you don't understand. Does the MOQ even have objects of conception? I don't think so. Objects ARE concepts.

Marsha:  
Contradiction IS a concept.